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warmfeet

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88. I hope we can make it to the other side, regarding rationality.
Sat May 4, 2019, 06:57 PM
May 2019

I am not so sure that we can.

We, humans, have so much potential for good - and for evil.

How will this all play out?

I am still hoping for the best - well, my idea of the best.

Ronald Reagan is the foundation, watoos May 2019 #1
and the degradation of our educational systems. mopinko May 2019 #10
Yes. elleng May 2019 #22
+1000 To reverse this trend we MUST improve our schools & teach critical thinking. CaptainTruth May 2019 #44
it teaches them to swallow whatever swill is thrown at them. mopinko May 2019 #52
I've learned personality traits and "tribal" groupthink Hortensis May 2019 #83
groupthink - agree. nt iluvtennis May 2019 #86
...and tribalism. Ligyron May 2019 #123
Or a God... Callmecrazy May 2019 #156
I maintain the best intervention includes passage of a rewritten Fairness Doctrine lambchopp59 May 2019 #152
Yes. I left teaching during the Reagan era. Best decision livetohike May 2019 #105
The hard core will just home school their kids like they do now tikka May 2019 #114
"The Government is the problem". Mr.Bill May 2019 #29
That's the one I have the hardest time with. kag May 2019 #146
Yes. The republicans say government doesn't work Mr.Bill May 2019 #164
I alway have believed that it began with the Powell Manifesto to the US chamber in PatrickforO May 2019 #51
You and me both. Efilroft Sul May 2019 #61
Nixon was the foundation... Drunken Irishman May 2019 #70
There has been a systematic brainwashing of people. Left-over May 2019 #75
I maintain the best intervention includes passage of a rewritten Fairness Doctrine lambchopp59 May 2019 #154
Yup wryter2000 May 2019 #82
Oh yeah. Reagan's "government is the problem " Nuggets May 2019 #93
because he killed the fairness doctrine. the 20-1 talk radio monopoly of 1500 radio stations are certainot May 2019 #104
There is only one reason limbaugh is on so many stations Kilgore May 2019 #107
that only applies to little stations. and iheart is $20BIL in debt. it's irrelevant and doesn't certainot May 2019 #120
Ok, but here the choice is limbaugh or hannity Kilgore May 2019 #133
all self criticism of dems and the left is bullshit until they recognize talk radio's part, which is certainot May 2019 #140
This is part of why Adam Smith was wrong misanthrope May 2019 #122
That is the result of the problem. Group think that is controlled. olegramps May 2019 #145
It also very difficult to counter under the existing situation. Repub control the broadcasts. olegramps May 2019 #144
Some of them think Trump was literally sent by God to "save America". TwilightZone May 2019 #2
Reagan was the one watoos May 2019 #6
Agreed. TwilightZone May 2019 #8
Why do you think so much industry moved to at140 May 2019 #69
That's been a time-honored pattern misanthrope May 2019 #126
More than Reagan misanthrope May 2019 #124
yep, one is on tape at a rally saying tRump is 2 steps above God, no kidding. nt yaesu May 2019 #47
My sister-in-law also has political Tourette syndrome. LastLiberal in PalmSprings May 2019 #3
Cognitive dissonance is common with these folks. mn9driver May 2019 #4
Scientists, or doctors, or whoever it was, watoos May 2019 #9
I agree. And fear mongering. I think there should be a concerted effort to label them as gullible. TryLogic May 2019 #108
I asked the wife of a retired union member who complained about all the dues he'd paid LastLiberal in PalmSprings May 2019 #138
I know people drawing city government pensions, rabid Republicans, Trump fans all. Demit May 2019 #13
Had a relative who retired from a union job after 30 years Jake Stern May 2019 #42
I actually know a former Union Local President that has always been a Republican. Of course this walkingman May 2019 #131
Both my parents fed at the government "trough" their WHOLE working lives, yet would say the same deurbano May 2019 #50
Well, to those folks the "government" is in D.C. nt oldsoftie May 2019 #125
it's brainwashing, classic symptom. Like suddenly singing a jingle for Oscar Meyer hotdogs CharleyDog May 2019 #84
So what do we do about it? rwheeler31 May 2019 #5
It's not exactly giving up, but, watoos May 2019 #14
Improtant to remember, the Blue Wave of 2018 even hit PA aeromanKC May 2019 #31
OMG Kitchari May 2019 #98
"I golf with the nicest 86 year old person". luvtheGWN May 2019 #99
I know, right? jayschool2013 May 2019 #112
Good question. The way I see it the problem is twofold: mn9driver May 2019 #19
a fox fake news lobotomy is irreversible & isn't covered by ACA. nt yaesu May 2019 #48
Same thing people do to radicalized ISIS fighters; devalue thier stupidity with reality uponit7771 May 2019 #132
They remind me of the true believers of the old East German regime DFW May 2019 #7
Yes, well explained. watoos May 2019 #17
Someone argued that was the source or Orban's success in Hungary DBoon May 2019 #49
Yes, Orban learned well from his predecessors DFW May 2019 #66
A Hungarian cousin who lives in moonscape May 2019 #89
Interesting observation. Psychologists refer to those as "frames," Hortensis May 2019 #11
Another one that really frosts my ass is the old "They're all the same." bs. You point out the retread May 2019 #12
These people can not be reached. You can't change their minds. Glorfindel May 2019 #15
That is what inspires me, watoos May 2019 #20
+1000 That's the key FakeNoose May 2019 #43
Plato's Allegory of the Cave. ariadne0614 May 2019 #16
Interesting. I'll give it a listen. mn9driver May 2019 #28
I ask them what specific crimes Hillary Clinton committed. Maraya1969 May 2019 #18
We need to be ready. watoos May 2019 #21
Murder treestar May 2019 #25
Trey Gowdy said on Fox that they knew she could not have stopped the attacks. But they Maraya1969 May 2019 #127
Debunked for rational people treestar May 2019 #158
The dinosaur I used to know not fooled May 2019 #141
Yes! It all makes perfect sense to them. nt femmocrat May 2019 #151
They are crazy Meowmee May 2019 #23
If the government doesn't work, how come it does not continue to not work treestar May 2019 #24
Belief is not a skil set NotHardly May 2019 #26
Gotta wash socks. BBL. n/t rzemanfl May 2019 #100
What do you expect from a bunch of Christians who are told stopbush May 2019 #27
Big truth here! nocoincidences May 2019 #35
They were easy marks . Twice suckered. lunasun May 2019 #38
TRUE here! The BAD PART is bluestarone May 2019 #63
Don't forget Lying for Jesus, a time-honored tradition in the Xian church. stopbush May 2019 #73
Only two kinds of Publicans left in the country.... safeinOhio May 2019 #30
trump's support is shrinking barbtries May 2019 #32
Die-hard, lawless libertarians? moondust May 2019 #33
Most are in their 40s or early 50s. Many had a previous military career. mn9driver May 2019 #41
The evidence u cite is just another symptom of BootinUp May 2019 #34
It's kind of like religion-- dawg day May 2019 #36
The interesting thing is, many of them don't believe all the resultant lies. mn9driver May 2019 #53
This is very very good, thank you for writing it stopwastingmymoney May 2019 #71
I know I posted a few days ago that mountain grammy May 2019 #37
You can't reason with unreasonable people. BarbD May 2019 #39
New facts don't change peoples' minds. The_jackalope May 2019 #40
For them, there are no new facts... Ferrets are Cool May 2019 #58
It does if you practice rational skepticism misanthrope May 2019 #128
Thanks to the power of right wing media liberalmediaaddict May 2019 #45
I have nothing to do with tRumpsters & luckily I don't have to work around them. nt yaesu May 2019 #46
Ask them... Aviation Pro May 2019 #54
I would have to engage in order to do that. Not gonna happen. mn9driver May 2019 #55
The group of people Trump has lost iamateacher May 2019 #56
It wouldn't even change if YOU were frogmarched to prision for your political Ferrets are Cool May 2019 #57
These Republicans are the same kind of people who would have followed Jim Jones patphil May 2019 #59
Trouble is by the time they die out, I'll be dead by then as well. no_hypocrisy May 2019 #60
From my experience... Different Drummer May 2019 #165
It's not so jarring when they're among like-minded people sop May 2019 #62
I'd be curious to know whether they're fundamentalists Xians, Opus Dei-type Catholics & their ages. Texin May 2019 #64
+1 Mosby May 2019 #65
I've noticed the first one with my stepfather a lot recently underpants May 2019 #67
Damn skippy. MrScorpio May 2019 #68
You are correct. They are completely brainwashed. Then I ask myself, am I the brainwashed Pepsidog May 2019 #72
Yes indeed TryLogic May 2019 #110
if foxnews went off the air for just one week, what a difference it would make. unblock May 2019 #74
+5 appalachiablue May 2019 #91
Confirmation Bias: ginnyinWI May 2019 #76
We shall overcome Beringia May 2019 #77
Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, and the Christian right? Martin Eden May 2019 #78
Add Alex Jones, Hannity etc. Alwaysna May 2019 #94
You have my sympathies, having to work with these people! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #79
They're all brainwashed. "Without the 'Fox effect' neither Bush nor Trump could have won." deurbano May 2019 #80
Yet they don't question the motives or actions of corporations Fiendish Thingy May 2019 #81
I didn't see race or hate mentioned here. They are not talked about in mixed company. empedocles May 2019 #85
governance through the sympathetic magic of conservative ideology. Thomas Hurt May 2019 #87
I hope we can make it to the other side, regarding rationality. warmfeet May 2019 #88
Fox TV est. 1996, Hate Radio since 1987 and this is the result appalachiablue May 2019 #90
Another problem i see is bluestarone May 2019 #92
I'd say your employer's screening needs work. BobTheSubgenius May 2019 #95
Screen for political ideology? Marengo May 2019 #160
Yes, indeed. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2019 #96
Sorry, you are quite wrong! No matter how many screenings, when they believe in obvious.... machoneman May 2019 #97
I was thinking it was brainwashing but also had an in-law who was in a union and hated demigoddess May 2019 #101
Bingo samplegirl May 2019 #139
I can outdo that. this guy disliked being 'held back' by medicare. Searched for a doc he demigoddess May 2019 #166
"We have a big problem." saidsimplesimon May 2019 #102
Gee, we must hang out in the same places! Irishxs May 2019 #103
The ACA gave lots of new people insurance, but it indeed made many politicians filthy rich. MadDAsHell May 2019 #106
I have a customer who really thinks that HRC .. Botany May 2019 #109
"Nothing you say can change my mind"... czarjak May 2019 #111
"the ACA slowed the runaway rise in medical costs." Honeycombe8 May 2019 #113
This hurts me so much mrsadm May 2019 #115
I guess I am wasting my breath in trying to talk reason to them Demonaut May 2019 #116
Propaganda Works dlk May 2019 #117
Pure hate makes "smart" people stupid Steven Maurer May 2019 #118
Thank you. And this is why our priority must be on reaching out to Democrats pnwmom May 2019 #119
Thanks for this inside observation; obviously they don't ask questions SayItLoud May 2019 #121
as an extension, I bet they believe shanny May 2019 #129
This is what keeps me up at night.....nt Heartstrings May 2019 #130
Why are we coddling misguided people? If they want to live in an illusion...Go Ahead Chin music May 2019 #134
Small point....I think they ARE crazy. Hulk May 2019 #135
. struggle4progress May 2019 #136
It's all based on bigotry. Doodley May 2019 #137
I've learned something important as well. Aussie105 May 2019 #142
We are forced to pick the lesser of two evils... sokpupet May 2019 #143
That is one thing that got me out of flying... GetRidOfThem May 2019 #147
Something I've noticed repeatedly that pushes their buttons: mpreorder May 2019 #148
Not for nothing, but this has been the case for a L O N G time Cosmocat May 2019 #149
Brainwashed Republicans JGug1 May 2019 #150
I maintain the best intervention includes passage of a rewritten Fairness Doctrine lambchopp59 May 2019 #153
This is the result of Trumpocalypse May 2019 #155
True. Nitram May 2019 #157
I concur: " stop the godless socialism lover at any cost" California_Republic May 2019 #159
How I turned out differently cp May 2019 #161
The Ditching Of The Fairness Doctrine Led To Where We Are Now colsohlibgal May 2019 #162
I don't care how bright one thinks they might be... BlueJac May 2019 #163
Talk radio, Fox News, Breitbart and InfoWars have done their evil work... Blue_Tires May 2019 #167
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