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137. DUer Enoki33 recently posted...
Wed May 29, 2019, 02:15 AM
May 2019

"It seems the pinnacle of human hubris to assume we have some sort of monopoly on technology and universal exploration. The shock to our social, political and religious systems will be worldwide if and when we finally get answers that confirm our own ancient tribal oral histories. Hope l am still around then."

"Unidentified" does not necessarily mean "Extraterrestrial." MineralMan May 2019 #1
+1 nt Javaman May 2019 #30
I believe, after a lifetime studying the issue... First Speaker May 2019 #45
OK, then... MineralMan May 2019 #87
"Unidentified" does not necessarily mean "Extraterrestrial." trueblue2007 May 2019 #56
That's enlightening and scary at the same time. LastLiberal in PalmSprings May 2019 #78
I believe these UFOs NewsCenter28 May 2019 #90
Magical thinking comes in all flavors, I suppose. nt Codeine May 2019 #97
... SammyWinstonJack May 2019 #218
In what way would the existence of extraterrestrials contradict the existence of a God? musicblind May 2019 #261
Why, "No, probably not"? n/t Control-Z May 2019 #119
So true. PoindexterOglethorpe May 2019 #128
+1. nt Honeycombe8 May 2019 #197
+1 Proud Liberal Dem May 2019 #273
Uh huh... SidDithers May 2019 #2
UFOs unidentified flying objects exists I guess wasupaloopa May 2019 #3
Say! What is that thing flying over there? MineralMan May 2019 #8
More than once I've seen something in the sky PoindexterOglethorpe May 2019 #129
There are lots of things moving across the sky. MineralMan May 2019 #151
Same Here ProfessorGAC May 2019 #222
Several years ago I saw a shape-chaging orange UFO... Archae May 2019 #223
Hm. trev May 2019 #59
Aw, Jeez PSPS May 2019 #4
Thanks! customerserviceguy May 2019 #95
Coming up next, crop circles and chemtrails Major Nikon May 2019 #177
A wise person once said: "They're not Unidentified Flying Objects. Aristus May 2019 #5
Who's flying them? Cartoonist May 2019 #6
Flying what? wasupaloopa May 2019 #7
I can't identify them. Cartoonist May 2019 #9
Those things. They're, you know, unidentified, MineralMan May 2019 #10
All righty, then. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2019 #11
Most are from the Lost Planet Oron. Sneederbunk May 2019 #12
UFOs, Sasquatch, the Loch Ness Monster, who shot Kennedy, Donald Trump... sop May 2019 #13
Problem with the term "UFO" is Ghost Dog May 2019 #15
On thing that is just unidentified edhopper May 2019 #22
It's fairly obvious that they are of no consequence whatsoever jberryhill May 2019 #14
in my opinion, that more than likely goes the other way around anarch May 2019 #79
Or we are ant in an ant farm to them. Blue_true May 2019 #114
That's obviously incorrect jberryhill May 2019 #155
Actually, micro drones have been produced that simulate a mosquito flying. Blue_true May 2019 #112
Non sequitur jberryhill May 2019 #115
They have everything to do with each other. Blue_true May 2019 #118
Obviously their masking technology is crap jberryhill May 2019 #124
+1. The concise phrase "improbable discovery at the right moment" captures my feeling. John1956PA May 2019 #146
The galaxy and the universe operate on set principles. Blue_true May 2019 #187
The universe is older than 14 billion years old. Our galaxy alone is around 13-14 billion years old Blue_true May 2019 #185
Okay so, take this line right here: jberryhill May 2019 #189
If one accepts the Big Bang Theory, the Milky Way and Universe are the same age. Blue_true May 2019 #203
Even travelling something close to the speed of light PoindexterOglethorpe May 2019 #132
Well, you've just given us three choices ProudLib72 May 2019 #135
If one accepts the solar nebulae theory as the origin of our sun. Blue_true May 2019 #195
My Son the Astronomer PoindexterOglethorpe May 2019 #201
Does your son accept the Big Bang Theory of Universe formation? Blue_true May 2019 #206
All galaxies are not the same age. Galaxy formation is ongoing. PoindexterOglethorpe May 2019 #209
On the star estimate. Several sources that I read, including one associated with NASA Blue_true May 2019 #212
Nope. All galaxies were not formed at the same time, despite PoindexterOglethorpe May 2019 #213
Cosmic microwave can come from galaxy centers. Blue_true May 2019 #214
The Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation PoindexterOglethorpe May 2019 #215
I did not say the speed of light is not fixed, where did I say that? Blue_true May 2019 #251
this is somewhat off-topic, but are you familiar with the Conformal Cyclic Cosmology? anarch May 2019 #220
No I have not read that theory. I will read up on it tomorrow. Blue_true May 2019 #253
The very first UFOs have indeed been scientifically identified...... KY_EnviroGuy May 2019 #120
This message was self-deleted by its author Freelancer May 2019 #16
We have an alien in the White House. spanone May 2019 #17
There are a lot of aliens in the White House. nt. madinmaryland May 2019 #50
Yes. democratisphere May 2019 #152
Ummmm... do we need to build a wall? grumpyduck May 2019 #18
yes, and the Rigellians will pay for it! qazplm135 May 2019 #19
So we need to detain them, grumpyduck May 2019 #21
cruel and unusual punishment qazplm135 May 2019 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author grumpyduck May 2019 #23
Rigellians! DarthDem May 2019 #130
Not a very good argument. SouthernProgressive May 2019 #20
Yeah. Trump's "Space Force" comes to mind. skypilot May 2019 #26
As far as Extraterrestial spacecraft edhopper May 2019 #25
Amazing cameras EVERYWHERE and no evidence of aliens! Nt USALiberal May 2019 #28
Well, there is roscoeroscoe May 2019 #67
Fake photos from the 60s. Where is the 2019 proof? nt USALiberal May 2019 #72
+1 Lady Freedom Returns May 2019 #127
Check out YouTube. trev May 2019 #176
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music May 2019 #35
extraodinary claims edhopper May 2019 #42
And you don't know me Ed. Or what my life experience has shown me either. Chin music May 2019 #43
I can be nice to you... Archae May 2019 #46
I wouldn't use Santa Claus as a counter example lapfog_1 May 2019 #134
Wait. Are you actually saying Codeine May 2019 #55
Send me a link to your most convincing proof. nt USALiberal May 2019 #73
The US government controls all the cameras in the world? jberryhill May 2019 #80
Explains my recent run of very unflattering selfies. Codeine May 2019 #83
Advanced beings would likely have the capacity to cloak. Blue_true May 2019 #116
And you know this how? edhopper May 2019 #148
Well, it turns out... the pan galactic game of choice... jberryhill May 2019 #156
Actually, if you understood the nature of light and what can be possibly done with it. Blue_true May 2019 #179
If I understood the nature of light? jberryhill May 2019 #180
For those in the cheap seats, that was a mic drop. nt Codeine May 2019 #182
Yes, even I agree with that. nt Blue_true May 2019 #199
Ok, I'm schooled. My apologies. nt Blue_true May 2019 #198
No worries jberryhill May 2019 #202
Don't assume ignorance on the part of others. MineralMan May 2019 #190
I got ahead of myself and threw shade. Blue_true May 2019 #200
It is called having the capacity to take the known physics of the universe and apply it. Blue_true May 2019 #178
You mistake what I said edhopper May 2019 #181
First off. jberryhill May 2019 #184
You have advanced training in optics. Blue_true May 2019 #204
"To say that we have not been visited" jberryhill May 2019 #205
I don't believe in angels. I do believe though that there is vastly superior intelligence in the Blue_true May 2019 #208
Are you going to answer my question about shining the flashlight? Blue_true May 2019 #255
Lol, ahhhh NO! Really really silly! Cameras EVERYWHERE yet no proof! Nt USALiberal May 2019 #27
No proof of what? That these craft exist? trev May 2019 #60
Rey Hernandez has written about UFOs and aliens Beringia May 2019 #29
People can be TOO skeptical. MicaelS May 2019 #31
Of course some of this is alien. I for one, do not fear that. Chin music May 2019 #37
Didn't touching off nuclear devices cause Godzilla to respond? zackymilly May 2019 #165
I guess if the whole topic is a big joke, then this thread isnt for me. Thanks. Chin music May 2019 #174
not that I'm kicking this thread out of personal interest in the topic or anything, but... anarch May 2019 #221
"People can be TOO skeptical." LenaBaby61 May 2019 #39
I wonder if Trump has ever tried to look at the classified UFO files Polybius May 2019 #32
Hillary would have opened UFO files RedParrot May 2019 #54
Maybe if you see something MFM008 May 2019 #33
Speculation doesn't make it true. GeorgeGist May 2019 #34
Or false. Chin music May 2019 #38
And yet, you say with absolutism it is true. LanternWaste May 2019 #48
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music May 2019 #58
And, if you have the secret glasses u can see it all. BootinUp May 2019 #36
RIP Roddy Piper. n/t zackymilly May 2019 #166
Probably colsohlibgal May 2019 #40
Projecting extraterrestrial travel into form familiar to 21st century technology grantcart May 2019 #41
Can you please point out definitive instances of 21st Century technology that trev May 2019 #194
Your epistemology is at the level of a 7th grader grantcart May 2019 #217
just a comment on "especially in the world of CGI"...and a minor prediction anarch May 2019 #224
In other words, No, you can't point out any evidence. trev May 2019 #238
Pedestrian, uninformed and uninspired grantcart May 2019 #263
And still no evidence from you. trev May 2019 #267
Seeing is believing, I believe. As one who saw one in broad daylight, fly right over me... SWBTATTReg May 2019 #44
My friends and I saw one in 1969 trev May 2019 #61
When people tell me that they've seem something, LuvNewcastle May 2019 #65
I too, do believe people when they tell me something. As you do, I give the benefit of the doubt... SWBTATTReg May 2019 #164
We've already adjusted to the fact that weather balloons, natural phenomena LanternWaste May 2019 #47
Not doing research? trev May 2019 #63
Send link to your most unexplained story. nt USALiberal May 2019 #74
This isn't the most unexplained, but it is my favorite. trev May 2019 #121
technically speaking, there's a strong possibility that all life on earth originated from space anarch May 2019 #77
Actually... defacto7 May 2019 #125
... zackymilly May 2019 #167
There are four main groups of "trVe believers." Archae May 2019 #49
Feynman Chaser - The Likelihood of Flying Saucers Gore1FL May 2019 #51
+100 misanthrope May 2019 #69
How embarrassing for us if they ever want to be brought to our leader. book_worm May 2019 #52
They'd want the General Assembly of the United Nations... Ghost Dog May 2019 #68
I would take them directly to Willie Nelson n/t anarch May 2019 #82
Just keep them away from his stash. n/t zackymilly May 2019 #168
I have always found this topic interesting to a degree get the red out May 2019 #53
It is so much fun to think about! Laffy Kat May 2019 #57
UFOs, Ghosts, ESP, Etc.......pure BS. nt USALiberal May 2019 #76
Whitley Striber (Communion) considered the possibility that they were us happyaccident May 2019 #108
show me the evidence Farmer-Rick May 2019 #62
If you're not going to do any research trev May 2019 #66
The burden of proof is on those making the claim misanthrope May 2019 #71
Links please! nt USALiberal May 2019 #75
what is people's take on this CBS story, which I assumed was the impetus for the thread? anarch May 2019 #81
My take is a rational one misanthrope May 2019 #94
welp, looks like it's all explained now anyway, according to this new story anarch May 2019 #249
I have looked at much of the so called evidence and it lacks credibility Farmer-Rick May 2019 #147
I agree that many of the older reports are like that. trev May 2019 #163
well, eyewitness testimony is very unreliable Farmer-Rick May 2019 #173
I'm willing to accept that UFOs are simply modern technology trev May 2019 #175
Modern technology has not been proven? Farmer-Rick May 2019 #230
Why are you speaking in non-sequitors? trev May 2019 #240
I spent 20 years in the military...their equipment can make mistakes Farmer-Rick May 2019 #266
Sorry if I came across that way. It was not intentional. trev May 2019 #268
trump* being in the White House has convinced me that ANYTHING is possible, so why not. Siwsan May 2019 #64
Mr. Bean was beamed down. Kid Berwyn May 2019 #211
this is going to be a controversial topic, because there has been a long term effort to suppress it anarch May 2019 #70
The Maryland Air National Guard has already disclosed what they were doing that night jberryhill May 2019 #85
so let me give you a little timeline on that anarch May 2019 #88
"There is some kid that the media found" jberryhill May 2019 #92
no, that's exactly what I was talking about--some young adult then anarch May 2019 #111
I've seen hundreds... Mike Nelson May 2019 #84
Jimmy Carter said he saw a UFO. former9thward May 2019 #86
Interesting Beringia May 2019 #91
Carter saw the Planet Venus edhopper May 2019 #149
Were you with him? former9thward May 2019 #170
Or a cloud from a NASA rocket edhopper May 2019 #172
"We have absolutely no idea what is out there!" Kid Berwyn May 2019 #89
Many in this thread are quite certain about what is out there jberryhill May 2019 #93
People can be TOO skeptical. MicaelS May 2019 #96
I'm not sure you understand the definition of "skeptic" jberryhill May 2019 #98
"That's how we get bullshit like religion." Iggo May 2019 #100
It's obviously ghosts jberryhill May 2019 #102
But if the believers in dead angel choirs and the believers in little green men join up... Iggo May 2019 #103
What's funny is jberryhill May 2019 #106
They don't see the eerie similarity... Iggo May 2019 #107
They both have issues with unbelievers jberryhill May 2019 #144
real talk - this is a valid point anarch May 2019 #126
Amen Ligyron May 2019 #123
What the US Navy pilot saw was confirmed by radar on the carrier. Kid Berwyn May 2019 #210
Yes, and... jberryhill May 2019 #227
UFOs are a national security concern. Kid Berwyn May 2019 #228
Do you feel inclined to address the question? jberryhill May 2019 #229
Never said that, did I? Kid Berwyn May 2019 #231
Sssssssssshhhhhhhhhhh........they live among us. nt Hotler May 2019 #99
Hey, Mods. Can you move this thread to Creative Speculation? Iggo May 2019 #101
Guess it's time for..... AJT May 2019 #104
They met with Eisenhower in 1955 at Holloman AFB Kilgore May 2019 #105
Why didn't they suggest he ditch Nixon? jberryhill May 2019 #110
I'm scheduled to go out to NM later in the summer . Is Roswell worth a visit - anyone ? lunasun May 2019 #109
Conspiracy theory claptrap. n/t X_Digger May 2019 #113
The energy required for effective intersteller travel is enormous krispos42 May 2019 #117
if we are the only sentient species in the galaxy 912gdm May 2019 #131
Well thanks to the vagaries of special relativity misanthrope May 2019 #133
I had to look up "Alcubierre drive" on wikipedia ProudLib72 May 2019 #136
As I said, it's a long, long ways from do-able misanthrope May 2019 #140
Stephen Hawking and Neil Degrasse Tyson disagree BannonsLiver May 2019 #269
Universe? I never said that. krispos42 May 2019 #274
It's the dark matter UFOs that worry me most. KY_EnviroGuy May 2019 #122
And ducton tape! LOTS of ducton tape!! hatrack May 2019 #150
DUer Enoki33 recently posted... Duppers May 2019 #137
Did you see the film "Contact?" misanthrope May 2019 #141
once again a group of old white men telling us what we should and should not believe in. 912gdm May 2019 #138
This is Ceti Alpha V ! miyazaki May 2019 #139
Art Bell is missed Tech May 2019 #142
Coast to Coast with Art Bell was fun.... Javaman May 2019 #157
The probability of a technologically advanced alien species sending spacecraft to earth is near zero Spider Jerusalem May 2019 #143
Woo And Bullshit Exist And Everyone Needs To Adjust To That Fact hatrack May 2019 #145
PLUS-to-the-emmer-effin-ONE. Iggo May 2019 #264
Ever notice that. as our photo capability has improved, the quality of UFO images has decreased? brooklynite May 2019 #153
Extraterrestrials do exist and they are far more advanced than humans. democratisphere May 2019 #154
Ok, show me. Archae May 2019 #158
And you have no definitive proof that there are no extraterrestrials. democratisphere May 2019 #159
Silly argument. The burden is on the person making the unlikely claim. So....... USALiberal May 2019 #196
There are some cures for cancer with more cures everyday. democratisphere May 2019 #207
Human exceptionalism is what leads people to believe they must be visiting us jberryhill May 2019 #186
You know, I was skeptical of UFOs for a long time. PatrickforO May 2019 #160
To paraphrase Captain Kirk, why would gods need starships? hunter May 2019 #161
And if these Aliens have found a way to exceed the speed of light fescuerescue May 2019 #191
True universal sentience is the ability to be everywhere and anywhere at once. hunter May 2019 #193
They may be nothing extraordinary Bayard May 2019 #162
If anything should happen to me...... Hotler May 2019 #169
Whatever you say, Spooky Mulder Tarc May 2019 #171
Hey, hey, don't be mean. hunter May 2019 #183
I believe Aliens are possible. fescuerescue May 2019 #188
Is there intelligent life out there? keithbvadu2 May 2019 #192
Ignoring compelling UFO evidence is not in our best interest. ZX86 May 2019 #216
Ignoring mistaken idetification and bullshit is in my best interest, Archae May 2019 #225
Flying saucer groupies? ZX86 May 2019 #232
Weird..... inanna May 2019 #234
It says something about the gullibility of people edhopper May 2019 #235
.... inanna May 2019 #236
Reports of seeing unidentified objects edhopper May 2019 #237
Yep. I would like to believe.... inanna May 2019 #241
Sorry if it seemed I was attacking you edhopper May 2019 #242
No worries. inanna May 2019 #243
You too. edhopper May 2019 #245
How can you claim alien visitation is bunk if objects are unidentified? ZX86 May 2019 #244
Actually I have edhopper May 2019 #246
Prior to 1992 there was ZERO evidence of exoplanets. ZX86 May 2019 #254
Now I see where you are coming from edhopper May 2019 #256
Thank you. ZX86 May 2019 #260
Okay if you say so! whistler162 May 2019 #219
Stephen Hawking was cautious about finding alien life. LastLiberal in PalmSprings May 2019 #226
If there are aliens among us then they are not hostile Jersey Devil May 2019 #233
Zuckerberg and Bezos are aliens... Ellipsis May 2019 #239
The Nimitz nocoincidences May 2019 #247
Chilean navy aviators Kid Berwyn May 2019 #262
Have we been *trying* to stop them? Blue_Tires May 2019 #248
Kick. inanna May 2019 #250
I saw a movie about this once DBoon May 2019 #252
Of course though, I wouldn't blame them for not wanting anything to do with us sandensea May 2019 #257
Its much more likely they are from other dimensions rather than outer space cbdo2007 May 2019 #258
How so? DavidDvorkin May 2019 #259
we can't really grasp the distance between objects in space... cbdo2007 May 2019 #270
We know that extrasolar planets exist DavidDvorkin May 2019 #271
People assume too much about possible alien visitation. ZX86 May 2019 #272
The problem is too many people are making too much money from this. Archae May 2019 #265
VIRGINIA BEACH Oceana Naval Air Station nocoincidences May 2019 #275
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