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davekriss

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31. Impeachment w/o conviction is not meaningless

Fri May 31, 2019, 02:08 PM

May 2019

It will focus national attention on the high crimes and misdemeanors our President commits almost every day.

The Senate will open the trial, make a few statements, and quickly vote to not convict. Of that I’m 100% certain, slime that they are. But this will focus attention on the hypocrisy and moral failings of Republicans.

No, none of this will influence anyone who identifies as a Republican — who represent a little over a quarter of the voting population — but it will influence independents and Democrats.

Yeah,Trump still has the loudest megaphone (the bully pulpit), so we do need the media to do the right thing. There is risk. But what is life without adventure?

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For everyone calling for impeachment now, are you really naive enough to trust Turtle Mitch?? [View all] malchickiwick May 2019 OP

Then Trump has a permanent get-out-of-impeachment-free card because 50 Shades Of Blue May 2019 #1

That is exactly it Bettie May 2019 #8

Turtle's expected action is no excuse for House Dems to ignore their sworn oaths. LonePirate May 2019 #2

Last time I checked they were issuing subpoenas and demands for documents, so they have not ignored. malchickiwick May 2019 #4

Are you naive enough to think that matters?? honest.abe May 2019 #3

Of course it matters. I'm frankly tired of so many people trying to mansplain impeachment to ... malchickiwick May 2019 #5

I totally trust Speaker Pelosi but.. honest.abe May 2019 #9

How many ways can I say thank you for this? StarfishSaver May 2019 #10

Thank YOU. I appreciate your support! malchickiwick May 2019 #32

Remember this? Bettie May 2019 #11

THANK YOU Skittles May 2019 #40

Don't need Senate to follow constitution and hurt Republicans politically uponit7771 May 2019 #16

"What a steering wheel does or doesn't do is irrelevant to what the tires should do." LanternWaste May 2019 #19

So Mitch McConnell steers Democrats in the House?? honest.abe May 2019 #21

And if the House dems don't impeach he will run on "Even the dems didn't think I did anything wrong. CrispyQ May 2019 #6

THANK YOU !!! uponit7771 May 2019 #15

Mitch May get to set the rules for the trial watoos May 2019 #7

The Chief Justice will preside, but under Mitch's rules. StarfishSaver May 2019 #12

I'm not sure it would be Buckeyeblue May 2019 #18

PUH-leeze. It was political suicide not to hold Garland hearings. How did that work out? malchickiwick May 2019 #39

I frankly don't care what McTurtle or how the Senate Rs vote on impeachment. It must be undertaken in2herbs May 2019 #13

Don't need Senate to follow constitution and hurt Republicans politically uponit7771 May 2019 #14

But what if it helps Republicans politically? Locutusofborg May 2019 #23

Never has in 3 separate centuries uponit7771 May 2019 #24

We agree, it helped Clinton but the Democratic party didn't win control of uponit7771 May 2019 #25

Hurt them how, they will stop impeachment, a win for them! Nt USALiberal Jun 2019 #41

Never has been a win for the party of the impeached when it comes to control uponit7771 Jun 2019 #44

More fear. shockey80 May 2019 #17

We shouldn't let the Senate stop us from doing the right thing. Baitball Blogger May 2019 #20

why pass any legislation in the House? KayF May 2019 #22

You are hyperbolic and comparing apples to oranges ... malchickiwick May 2019 #33

IDGAF what McConnell or any of the traitors say or do. kacekwl May 2019 #26

Impeachment does not take place in US Senate at140 May 2019 #27

My point was that if/when the House impeaches the Senate will refuse to hold a trial. malchickiwick May 2019 #38

That seems likely, and therefore Trump will be running in2020 at140 Jun 2019 #46

How many times did Republicans try to repeal the ACA? ego_nation May 2019 #28

Apples & Oranges, imho, n/t malchickiwick May 2019 #36

Is it, though? ego_nation Jun 2019 #45

This is my one concern TheRealNorth May 2019 #29

If hearings in the House are televised and information obtained is criminal beyond the pale, it Vinca May 2019 #30

I agree. But I also think Nancy is WAY smarter than I am... malchickiwick May 2019 #35

Impeachment w/o conviction is not meaningless davekriss May 2019 #31

Please trust our Speaker, and don't equate the potential loss of the Republic with "adventure" malchickiwick May 2019 #34

Rock & a hard place dustyscamp May 2019 #37

We do an end-run around the turtle. Kid Berwyn Jun 2019 #42

I really wish that was true, but frankly if you are expecting Repubs to do the right thing ... malchickiwick Jun 2019 #43

Get everyone on record. Period. ecstatic Jun 2019 #47