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Sparko55

(52 posts)
22. Not all that surprising - look at messaging - 2016 - I'm with Her vs. MAGA
Mon Jun 3, 2019, 06:29 PM
Jun 2019

Life long Dem, but never understand why Dem's fail (save Obama) to advance any sort of message people can get behind and support. GOP seems more adept at getting through with simple, concise, word sandwiches. Frank Luntz always seems to be able to hit the target and Dems keep looking for a message. Agree with comments on this thread that Dems more decentralized approach seeking inclusion of many voices waters down the message - and it appears to the average Joe to be all over the place.

It's happening again in this campaign season. Biden on Saturday at the HRC event in Columbus stating that LGBTQ Rights his #1 legislative priority. May play well in the room, as they say, but really Joe, you think that plays well, as they use to say in Peoria? And unfortunately Kamala Harris "For the People" sounds like some cheesy ambulance chasing lawyer ad here in SW Florida or Southern Wisconsin where I use to live. You just want to throw up your hands and lunch with "catchy" slogans like that.

Dems have been getting pummeled for 40 plus years on tax cuts, tax cuts, tax cuts which has been the winning GOP mantra, and haven't figured out the counter to that. Fritz tried in 1984 and lost in a landslide. You can't lead people until you have a plan, and objective, a goal, and can deliver. Kennedy said we'd be on the moon by the end of the 60's decade, and by golly, we were. Eisenhower laid out the notion of the Interstate roads system to connect the big country together, and although it took decades to complete, people saw things getting done - most for good, some not so much. Neither party has a vision for the future of the country. Big Ideas, Bold Ideas, and so they pitch and sell to self interest - tax cuts, get rich on your own, and piss on everyone else. Not really inspiring but all that's on offer. Maybe start with some big projects - yes infrastructure - and start with replacing failing bridges and roads in rural areas and then move on to the cities. Go for high speed rail, and go big, connecting the top 100 to 200 cities by population and you cover 35 of the states and most in between. It builds capacity, it builds technological skill, it delivers jobs, and spurs new business. And it delivers to the country. Make it a military imperative - as they did with the Interstate system - then even the GOP Dumbo's can go along with it. (Apologies to Dumbo).

So it's no surprise that a "conservative" message gets more hits on the internet. In a 5 and dime mindset of cutting through the clutter, sorry to say but MAGA seemed attractive to low information voters - and still does. Yup, they are being played and taken all the way to the cleaners and back for a rinse, wash, and repeat over and over, but they got the message. Just watched the Theresa Greenfield for Senate opening ad, and she was unapologetic in her support of Social Security and why. Straight forward on message and connected.

I didn't realize that conservatives are "winning the internet" now? Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2019 #1
The rich right wing take their tax cuts and fund Citizens' United groups and applegrove Jun 2019 #2
Yeah, it's pretty simple. And when the target is KPN Jun 2019 #26
I disagree. saidsimplesimon Jun 2019 #3
Disagree or not, there is truth to what the author is saying. Caliman73 Jun 2019 #21
"A lie gets halfway around the world before truth puts on its boots." - Churchill C_U_L8R Jun 2019 #4
Pretty sure Clemens said that first... Wounded Bear Jun 2019 #11
Wasn't sure about that. Thanks. C_U_L8R Jun 2019 #15
it was neither Celerity Jun 2019 #16
Thus my insertion of the "repeated it first" in my comment... Wounded Bear Jun 2019 #17
fair enough Celerity Jun 2019 #18
how can one tell? samnsara Jun 2019 #5
WTF? What does "winning the internet" mean? WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2019 #6
HATE is an effective motivator empedocles Jun 2019 #7
Apparently the authors of this article have not visited the Free republic web site. madinmaryland Jun 2019 #8
They have spent decades building an infrastructure procon Jun 2019 #9
A lot of those things you mentioned is also influencing kids into becoming more RW dustyscamp Jun 2019 #10
Dems face an uphill slog. procon Jun 2019 #14
I think the dems are stepping up. They just can't say it. applegrove Jun 2019 #12
The internet thrives on simple, bumper sticker memes... Wounded Bear Jun 2019 #13
Not sure I agree, but interesting subject... SamuelTwain Jun 2019 #19
First off, they are NOT "conservatives" any more. They're right-wing radicals, or frankly, fascists. VOX Jun 2019 #20
Not all that surprising - look at messaging - 2016 - I'm with Her vs. MAGA Sparko55 Jun 2019 #22
An hour ago, I responded on Fb to a false claim that Hillary won only 57 counties in 2016. John1956PA Jun 2019 #23
I disagree with the gist of the editorial pecosbob Jun 2019 #24
I think it's because the mass of conservative voters is more ignorant & will believe fake news more. Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #25
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