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Victor_c3

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12. Personally, I love the VA
Tue Aug 28, 2012, 08:55 AM
Aug 2012

However, your note is funny.

It's kind of like where I work. Everyone hates working for my organization and constantly complains about how bad of a place it is to work in a recent employee survey. But the funny thing is nobody leaves. Something like 2% of the employees who work here have been here for a year or less and turnover is almost non existant. If it sucks so much, why have you been working here for 20 years? Is it because nowhere else can you make the money you make here, have a low-stress job, and have the closest thing anyone has to absolute job security anymore?

The same with the VA.

Personally, I have nothing but good things to say about the VA. It is a big organization and it is easy to get lost in the system, but that happens with any excessively large organization. I fully believe that the care providers are sincere and really want the best for veterans like me. I show up a complete mental wreck (I have a lot of pretty severe PTSD issues) and they help me with every aspect of my life. I have relationship problems, a social worker helps me out with that. I lost my job, another person helps me find work and helps me write a resume. I'm going crazy bouncing off the walls and someone else will just sit and listen to me rant. When I'm having good days and I bring my kids by, everyone stops and to talk or play with them. The VA is full of good people and has provided me nothing but awesome care. They have done so much for my life.

I lived in Germany for a number of years where they have socialized medicine and I never heard anyone say anything negative about it. I know there is a lot of propaganda out there from the health insurance industry, but I don't how people can't see the numbers and realize that our healthcare system is crap. We pay more per capita on healthcare than anyone else in the world and have a lower life expectancy than most other industrialized nations. I just don't get it. Our for profit healthcare system obviously isn't working as well as it should.

Another thing that I find funny is look at how, relatively speaking, successful and strong the German economy has been in the last several years. They have things like socialized medicine, environmental controls, and fair labor practices - all things that conservatives claim kill the economy. They currently have an unemployment rate of 6.8% (if I recall correctly) and are the second most exporting country in the world after China.

Du rec. Nt xchrom Aug 2012 #1
People hear one anecdote about delayed or denied care and they use that to tar the entire system... rfranklin Aug 2012 #2
Which is ironic, considering that our system is rife with examples of delayed/denied care. n/t gkhouston Aug 2012 #3
And stories of NO care - never forget the many millions with no medical insurance kestrel91316 Aug 2012 #42
Believe me, I know -- I have no insurance. n/t gkhouston Aug 2012 #44
It's like people who refuse to wear seatbelts because they "heard of a guy..." Curtland1015 Aug 2012 #4
Well, I personally knew 3 people kurtzapril4 Aug 2012 #28
Which is horrible, and you have my sympathies for your loss, KitSileya Aug 2012 #38
the "i know a guy who " stories. i occasionally hear from people who dont like unions they'll say leftyohiolib Aug 2012 #5
I hear these stories too rickford66 Aug 2012 #7
What kind of bogus is this post? The headline, "Horror story", is absured. Please go away. xtraxritical Aug 2012 #17
Did you actually read the story? marmar Aug 2012 #19
There's thousands of doctors in Canada, if one did not want to do the exam she would have no xtraxritical Aug 2012 #51
The "horror story" the headline is referring to...... marmar Aug 2012 #57
+1 Proud Liberal Dem Aug 2012 #24
I live in the south. ALL the veterans complain about the VA medical system and NOT ONE has gone byeya Aug 2012 #6
Some people on Medicare don't want their fellow citizens to have it.Greed and selfishness, purely.nt raccoon Aug 2012 #10
Personally, I love the VA Victor_c3 Aug 2012 #12
All the Democratic Socialist countries of Europe are ahead of the USA in every measurement xtraxritical Aug 2012 #18
but but but Victor_c3 Aug 2012 #25
They have strong unions. Lars39 Aug 2012 #36
So Brewinblue Aug 2012 #8
The horror story is that women with breast cancer might not catch it soon enough MoonRiver Aug 2012 #13
What the author is referring to by the missing "horror story" ...... marmar Aug 2012 #14
Yes, I know those horror stories happen, but I didn't experience any problems with insurance. MoonRiver Aug 2012 #16
A 2 year wait for a mammogram? laundry_queen Aug 2012 #32
From the story I deduce that mammos are covered by the national health insurance only 2 years. MoonRiver Aug 2012 #47
You can have a mammogram whenever the doctor thinks you need one TrogL Aug 2012 #48
United Healthcare denied me a medicine once. Lunabelle Aug 2012 #9
I have been on United Healthcare for fifteen years JayhawkSD Aug 2012 #27
About the nurse who calls you repeatedly. That's part of the insurance companies' scam truth2power Aug 2012 #41
Well how nice for you Lunabelle Aug 2012 #60
This is standard in my experience with UHC gollygee Aug 2012 #56
My cancer was missed on the mammo in 2010, but found in 2011. MoonRiver Aug 2012 #11
Isn't there some kind of evidence SheilaT Aug 2012 #50
Not that I know of. MoonRiver Aug 2012 #52
Dear Friend kcred Oct 2012 #61
K&R Generally, people that "love their insurance company" have never been really ill. Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #15
See post #27 JayhawkSD Aug 2012 #29
Generally. First word I wrote. Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #43
The fact is the life expectancy is longer in these countries than the U.S. blake87 Aug 2012 #20
Don't forget to compare the per-capita costs Victor_c3 Aug 2012 #26
The people I know in Canada say the primary care is great, everything else sucks. MrSlayer Aug 2012 #21
As opposed to here. ieoeja Aug 2012 #33
Where do the people you know live in Canada? laundry_queen Aug 2012 #34
London, Ontario. MrSlayer Aug 2012 #46
wow! worked hard for Gabi Hayes Aug 2012 #53
Hey, whatever. MrSlayer Aug 2012 #54
Not my experience Canuckistanian Aug 2012 #39
My husband's American "cadillac insurance" Hip replacement took 6 months wait time SmileyRose Aug 2012 #55
BUT, i thought the u.s. had the bestest health care anywhere? Did I Just Type This Aug 2012 #22
WE do..... bvar22 Aug 2012 #45
The first question here is who is paying for this or who is responsible for paying for the treatment Historic NY Aug 2012 #23
Another take on Healthcare bakpakr Aug 2012 #30
k&R... midnight Aug 2012 #31
All of my family of origin are Canadian citizens. My cousin (by marriage) truth2power Aug 2012 #35
Waiting time for procedures in the US can be horrendous too. mysuzuki2 Aug 2012 #37
As many DU-ers know, I'm a Physician Assistant practicing in the clinical medicine setting. Aristus Aug 2012 #40
My wife is in kidney failure TrogL Aug 2012 #49
Your complaint about a long wait in the ER is pretty standard here. Cleita Aug 2012 #59
Gee whiz. She had to bully the system for an extra mammogram? Cleita Aug 2012 #58
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