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61. I know that Biden is catching a lot of guff for his remarks and seeming delusional

Tue Jun 11, 2019, 05:12 PM

Jun 2019

but you have to look at it as trying to possibly bring in some disaffected Republican voters. I don't see how anybody gets elected in this country by demonizing a percentage of voters in the country, some of whom may be educable. Yeah, some are totally lost Trumpers/Magats and most Republican politicians may be totally irredeemable trash but, as much as we might want to, we just don't want to be the party that divides and polarizes the country.

This by no means an endorsement of Biden (who I don't support for POTUS) but I think that he understands this. And I would be very surprised if we end up running a candidate for POTUS in the GE who wouldn't at least pay some lip service to national unity and bipartisanship, even though they might know that most Republicans would sooner spit in their eyes rather than work together.

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The GOP will not revert to "normal" after Trump. [View all] guillaumeb Jun 2019 OP

K & R 50 Shades Of Blue Jun 2019 #1

One thing that just shocks me is the misogyny. Ohiogal Jun 2019 #2

And it is open misogyny. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #3

And is bought into by many women. i personally know women that think a woman leader is ridiculous. Midnight Writer Jun 2019 #44

And like countless other groups of people that they put the wood to Cosmocat Jun 2019 #34

That plays into the wants of the GOP's evangelical base PufPuf23 Jun 2019 #48

The GOP wandered off the track of normal in 1979. They never found their way back... pecosbob Jun 2019 #4

I would argue for 1968. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #5

and he stalled the peace talks to help his reelection campaign. pecosbob Jun 2019 #6

As guillaumeb said: volstork Jun 2019 #20

Just as Reagan later made deals with the Ayatollah trev Jun 2019 #27

I'd say it was a process that amped up over a couple of decades... JHB Jun 2019 #26

The Southern Strategy, used with great success during Nixon's 1968 campaign, sop Jun 2019 #60

This this this. I follow your posts from the Biden thread zonkers Jun 2019 #7

Biden believes in the compromise that is essential in a democracy. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #8

If I was Joe, I would've come on so hard... zonkers Jun 2019 #11

But that would be playing by Trump's rules. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #14

Biden could do it too Ligyron Jun 2019 #24

What I want to hear from a candidate Mr.Bill Jun 2019 #32

It's a winning book. Call it what you will. He's attacking Trump hard and that is what the folks emmaverybo Jun 2019 #52

He believes in compromising with people who refuse to compromise? Act_of_Reparation Jun 2019 #12

He believes in the goodness of people. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #15

Sounds like I got into the wrong line of work. Act_of_Reparation Jun 2019 #17

If he "believes in" the goodness of republicans, he better wake up. pangaia Jun 2019 #23

Biden appeals to the independents and the disaffected GOPers FakeNoose Jun 2019 #13

Yes, he might appeal to some of them. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #16

You can't give the people who are destroying this country a pass HopeAgain Jun 2019 #29

I don't give them a pass and I don't think Joe Biden does either FakeNoose Jun 2019 #62

That's the thing HopeAgain Jun 2019 #75

He will pick up a lot of votes from Democrats, at least according to the latest polls at this point still_one Jun 2019 #55

In the general election if Biden is our candidate FakeNoose Jun 2019 #63

I agree still_one Jun 2019 #64

+1, they do not believe in liberal democracies not one bit uponit7771 Jun 2019 #38

We agree. eom guillaumeb Jun 2019 #45

So well said! Stunningly, starkly true, guillaumeb. JudyM Jun 2019 #73

This is the normal rufus dog Jun 2019 #9

Very well said. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #10

"One core belief of the GOP is that greed is good." volstork Jun 2019 #21

yes. ginnyinWI Jun 2019 #33

Let's not forget W. apnu Jun 2019 #19

W was similar to Reagen Cosmocat Jun 2019 #37

It's their fear of the non-wight walkers uponit7771 Jun 2019 #39

The GOP is finally showing its true colors apnu Jun 2019 #18

Wish I could volstork Jun 2019 #22

Well said. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #46

This trump... TommyCelt Jun 2019 #78

Trump didn't invent the current Republican Party rurallib Jun 2019 #25

Trump's populist "movement" isn't, it is just a rebranded version of the same far right Thomas Hurt Jun 2019 #28

The days of Jacob Javits and Nelson Rockefeller are clearly long over DFW Jun 2019 #30

Agreed. The GOP uses advertising people to construct slogans, guillaumeb Jun 2019 #47

Nope, they've shown themselves to be villains every one. Magoo48 Jun 2019 #31

Trump is the GOP Normal dlk Jun 2019 #35

they seem pretty normal to me.. stillcool Jun 2019 #36

I expected Trump to move moderates out of the GOP... zaj Jun 2019 #40

I thought Trump would bring down the GOP in 2016 Martin Eden Jun 2019 #77

Heinlein said: "Never depend on the other guy's better nature... Wounded Bear Jun 2019 #41

But he'll "reach across the aisle" if elected FiveGoodMen Jun 2019 #85

It would take a 1930's stlyle election wipeout standingtall Jun 2019 #42

The GOP never returned to "normal" after Speaker Gingrich. JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2019 #43

Do not forget Dennis Hastert. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #49

You mean the Contract On America 47of74 Jun 2019 #86

Trump is the culmination of the GOP's trajectory. Caliman73 Jun 2019 #50

An excellent reply. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #51

That and their normal sucked anyway. aikoaiko Jun 2019 #53

The Party of greed? guillaumeb Jun 2019 #54

Yeah, Since Ike I would probably say the party of selfishness. aikoaiko Jun 2019 #57

Plus if they forget what they're about, there's a media machine, the Koch$ and a rabid base BeyondGeography Jun 2019 #56

And the Kochs fund much of the right wing media machine. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #66

In terms of evolution, many GOPers are a known subset of humanity.... KY_EnviroGuy Jun 2019 #58

Many are authoritarians. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #67

Weak as pond water under the surface, I've found. KY_EnviroGuy Jun 2019 #71

Stick a fork in em. . . . They're DONE. BigDemVoter Jun 2019 #59

I know that Biden is catching a lot of guff for his remarks and seeming delusional Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2019 #61

GOP voters are a minority. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #68

Mitch McConnell is a bigger problem Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #65

Agreed. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #69

And increasingly emboldened, just like the growing GOP bench on the Supreme Court. JudyM Jun 2019 #74

..👍🏼 uponit7771 Jun 2019 #76

The Tea Bagger infestation took all this up a notch, then came Trump. nt Progressive Jones Jun 2019 #70

I hoped the GOP would come to its senses after the disaster of GW Bush Martin Eden Jun 2019 #72

They haven't been "normal" since Raygun... Ferrets are Cool Jun 2019 #79

Absolutely Glaisne Jun 2019 #80

The GOP has been on a downward spiral since Newt Gringich was Speake fron '95-'99 Fla Dem Jun 2019 #81

I agree, this is the new normal for the GOP. Not that they've changed so much, but that Nitram Jun 2019 #82

Not Anytime Soon colsohlibgal Jun 2019 #83

GOOD for pointing this out. Absolutely true. TryLogic Jun 2019 #84