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128. FFS

Reply to CTyankee (Original post)

Mon Jun 17, 2019, 12:15 PM

Jun 2019

HRC should in no way be held responsible for Trump's behavior, either explicitly or implicitly.

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My friend is still upset from the last election debate where HRC let Trump stalk her from [View all] CTyankee Jun 2019 OP

I was pissed malaise Jun 2019 #1

Frankly, the moderators should have shut Bettie Jun 2019 #2

Yes indeed. They let it happen. dameatball Jun 2019 #7

Yes, they should have. They let him octoberlib Jun 2019 #8

This. n/t demmiblue Jun 2019 #12

+1 they could have told him to go back to his space treestar Jun 2019 #24

+1 dalton99a Jun 2019 #34

He wasn't nearly as close as the camera view suggested. Hortensis Jun 2019 #50

No, it isn;t -- it is just another time when ryles are too good for him obamanut2012 Jun 2019 #116

You know, Obama's still around, writing, talking. Hortensis Jun 2019 #122

Hillary should have turned, glared at him & said loudly, stop stalking me U pervert, trueblue2007 Jun 2019 #64

That kind of reaction would only draw accusations of paranoia and man-hating. GoCubsGo Jun 2019 #72

Or... wryter2000 Jun 2019 #108

The moderators should have stopped Trump from seating Kathleen Willey, Juanita Broaddrick sop Jun 2019 #69

This. I couldn't believe everyone pretended nothing was going on here. BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2019 #74

OMG - look how teeny his hands are! Talitha Jun 2019 #117

👏🏾👍🏾😆 BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2019 #121

And they should have cut his mic when it wasn't his turn to speak. Talitha Jun 2019 #118

Armchair quarterbacks. Demit Jun 2019 #3

EXACTLY! EffieBlack Jun 2019 #16

I thought they were letting the world see what creepy fool he is. greatauntoftriplets Jun 2019 #40

Agree. Agree. Agree. Hortensis Jun 2019 #49

I don't think she made a mistake Bettie Jun 2019 #80

This. nt Tipperary Jun 2019 #84

It was disturbing to see loyalsister Jun 2019 #111

She handled it with aplomb. She would have been a good president. Demit Jun 2019 #123

She should have turned around and clocked him in the face. gordianot Jun 2019 #4

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2019 #5

I'm not a violent person but I wanted to slap octoberlib Jun 2019 #6

It didn't bother me at the time, but it seems it did hurt Clinton. marylandblue Jun 2019 #9

"feminist rant"? irisblue Jun 2019 #43

Sometimes rants are good ✊ marylandblue Jun 2019 #46

Note what happened to Kamala Harris recently fallrey Jun 2019 #62

Interesting question as to whether a woman can respond effectively. marylandblue Jun 2019 #68

Women have to find mercuryblues Jun 2019 #78

IMO, the line is not imaginary, it's just very, very narrow and hard to see. marylandblue Jun 2019 #83

What? Tipperary Jun 2019 #86

Not sure what you think it sounds like. marylandblue Jun 2019 #96

That doesn't comport with reality. Caliman73 Jun 2019 #70

This is nothing but the truth. StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #73

Yes, you are correct, that almost certainly would have happened. marylandblue Jun 2019 #98

The future of our country lies in the hands of competent women. Caliman73 Jun 2019 #124

In an interview later Hillary said she was very aware of what he was doing lunatica Jun 2019 #10

Not from a position of weakness but from strength. I think my friend was saying that she should CTyankee Jun 2019 #21

Yes, but she didn't at the time. lunatica Jun 2019 #35

Trump knrw what he was doing. His supporters got the message. irisblue Jun 2019 #45

John McCain did the same Scarsdale Jun 2019 #63

Do you really think he would have complied? EleanorR Jun 2019 #81

Maybe she could have just said she would stop til he got seated. I think the moderator would CTyankee Jun 2019 #82

The she would have been criticized for being overly sensitive EleanorR Jun 2019 #85

Ah, but here's a retort to that: CTyankee Jun 2019 #88

Then people would have said he rattled her EleanorR Jun 2019 #90

Some people, yes. I, myself, wasn't disturbed by her ignoring him. I was furious with him, tho. CTyankee Jun 2019 #92

Your friend has no standing to tell Hillary Clinton what she "should" or should not do. cwydro Jun 2019 #120

And she had to make a choice treestar Jun 2019 #22

Yep, I agree Metatron Jun 2019 #66

If you mean me, I most certainly am not judging her. marylandblue Jun 2019 #104

I was agreeing with you treestar Jun 2019 #106

Ok, thank you. I know it's a sensitive topic, so I'm trying to mindful of that. marylandblue Jun 2019 #107

I'm still bothered by the fact that HE stalked HER. demmiblue Jun 2019 #11

Great point EffieBlack Jun 2019 #17

This! mcar Jun 2019 #31

I don't think he was. He was angrier at Trump and wanted him put down hard. CTyankee Jun 2019 #55

Or just giving him a quick glance Zambero Jun 2019 #13

It must be nice to be so certain what someone else should do in a specific moment EffieBlack Jun 2019 #18

No one can ever claim to be certain Zambero Jun 2019 #29

You think she would have carried Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin if she had turned and told him EffieBlack Jun 2019 #42

And if she'd done that, she'd have been criticized for letting him rattle her, throw her off EffieBlack Jun 2019 #14

"Clinton attacks Trump for walking behind her. Too sensitive to be Prez?" mcar Jun 2019 #33

She would have been called "bossy" Takket Jun 2019 #39

trump should have turned a lot of voters off, but white wingers loved it. Still hard to accept. Hoyt Jun 2019 #15

She lost with her own demographic Zambero Jun 2019 #30

That is very victim-blaming treestar Jun 2019 #19

I don't think he was saying that at all. If anything, he was saying that Trump should have been CTyankee Jun 2019 #25

She should have kneed him in the nads pecosbob Jun 2019 #20

Or, "Donald, are you having trouble finding your chair? It's over there....there you go." tanyev Jun 2019 #23

I agree; it was the moderator's fault. LuvNewcastle Jun 2019 #26

The moderator should have simply asked him, "Why are you stalking Mrs. Clinton, sir?" sop Jun 2019 #67

I thought it made him look like a complete psycho. smirkymonkey Jun 2019 #58

I remember that, and it still pisses me off. She made the decision at the time to ignore... TreasonousBastard Jun 2019 #27

He's a bully and the traditional way to handle a bully mnhtnbb Jun 2019 #54

And What Should She Have Done? Me. Jun 2019 #28

Yeah, I hear ya... prolly wuda won Hillary the election if she had read tRump the riot act for that! InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2019 #32

Or not. EffieBlack Jun 2019 #44

she would have been described as a shrill angry out of control woman treestar Jun 2019 #53

But at least she'd be described today as the President of the United States cuz that's what she'd be InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2019 #112

You really think if she had said something, she'd have won Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Michigan? StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #119

Russia would TOTALLY have backed off, and the GOP got rid of the data ehrnst Jun 2019 #125

I was totally pissed. redstatebluegirl Jun 2019 #36

I still think, if we're gonna play the "shoulda" game... JHB Jun 2019 #37

The fact is she stayed cool and persisted in her goal. delisen Jun 2019 #38

I expect this thread to go as well a the recent Anita Hill/Joe Biden thread. SMC22307 Jun 2019 #41

No shit. Tipperary Jun 2019 #87

As others have already pointed out Hav Jun 2019 #47

Agreed fallrey Jun 2019 #61

*ALLOW*? WTeverlovin'F???? Baltimike Jun 2019 #48

I'm still pissed about it, myself. Paladin Jun 2019 #51

"If only she hadn't been wearing that short skirt, been on that dark street, gone to his room ..." StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #52

Oh, cmon! That's not the same thing and you know it! CTyankee Jun 2019 #56

Yep, sounds like your "friend " is blaming Hillary. Tipperary Jun 2019 #89

Well, since he voted for her I am assuming he feels she is qualified to be president. CTyankee Jun 2019 #91

Voting's important but not everything StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #94

well, we were just indulging in a conversational bash of Trump, something I often do with several CTyankee Jun 2019 #95

It's great they're supporters of our women candidates StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #97

If any of them falter, I will be there to remind them of what you say. CTyankee Jun 2019 #99

Awesome! StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #100

Watching some clips of Republican debates, Trump uses male dominance as a tool cally Jun 2019 #57

I remember that 2016 Town Hall Debate Niagara Jun 2019 #59

How about this? greymattermom Jun 2019 #60

Tell your friend she did fine MustLoveBeagles Jun 2019 #65

Why would anyone stillcool Jun 2019 #71

I can guarantee you he has issues with women and I'll bet there's a lot about his mother... llmart Jun 2019 #75

I've always suspected he hates his mother for not protecting him from his father StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #76

I agree. cwydro Jun 2019 #101

+1 MrsCoffee Jun 2019 #109

In the 2000 debate, Gore invaded Bush's personal space. Drunken Irishman Jun 2019 #77

Damned if she did and damned if she didn't, but I blame the moderators for not telling him... Hekate Jun 2019 #79

Same here - I was up screaming at the mods to do something!! Runningdawg Jun 2019 #102

I agree, Runningdawg. Totally Tunsie Jun 2019 #113

I know, the moderators. Do they have ear devices during something like this? sprinkleeninow Jun 2019 #115

I don't blame Hillary marlakay Jun 2019 #93

I think you friend might need to spend some time thinking about what women face everyday. cwydro Jun 2019 #103

The first time is hard but once you smack a perv, it becomes a reflex. Runningdawg Jun 2019 #105

She should've had an MP3 of The Police singing Don't Stand So Close To Me, & played it into the mic NBachers Jun 2019 #110

We were sponsors for babies baptized in the Orthodox Church. sprinkleeninow Jun 2019 #114

If she had done that, the media would have KILLED her over it NewJeffCT Jun 2019 #126

I'd have loved that - but honestly - she was damned if she did and DAMNED if she didn't. Maru Kitteh Jun 2019 #127

FFS Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2019 #128