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Mon Jun 17, 2019, 12:15 PM

Proud Liberal Dem (18,930 posts)

128. FFS

HRC should in no way be held responsible for Trump's behavior, either explicitly or implicitly.

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128 replies	Author	Time	Post
My friend is still upset from the last election debate where HRC let Trump stalk her from [View all]	CTyankee	Jun 2019	OP
I was pissed	malaise	Jun 2019	#1
Frankly, the moderators should have shut	Bettie	Jun 2019	#2
Yes indeed. They let it happen.	dameatball	Jun 2019	#7
Yes, they should have. They let him	octoberlib	Jun 2019	#8
This. n/t	demmiblue	Jun 2019	#12
+1 they could have told him to go back to his space	treestar	Jun 2019	#24
+1	dalton99a	Jun 2019	#34
He wasn't nearly as close as the camera view suggested.	Hortensis	Jun 2019	#50
No, it isn;t -- it is just another time when ryles are too good for him	obamanut2012	Jun 2019	#116
You know, Obama's still around, writing, talking.	Hortensis	Jun 2019	#122
Hillary should have turned, glared at him & said loudly, stop stalking me U pervert,	trueblue2007	Jun 2019	#64
That kind of reaction would only draw accusations of paranoia and man-hating.	GoCubsGo	Jun 2019	#72
Or...	wryter2000	Jun 2019	#108
The moderators should have stopped Trump from seating Kathleen Willey, Juanita Broaddrick	sop	Jun 2019	#69
This. I couldn't believe everyone pretended nothing was going on here.	BlancheSplanchnik	Jun 2019	#74
OMG - look how teeny his hands are!	Talitha	Jun 2019	#117
👏🏾👍🏾😆	BlancheSplanchnik	Jun 2019	#121
And they should have cut his mic when it wasn't his turn to speak.	Talitha	Jun 2019	#118
Armchair quarterbacks.	Demit	Jun 2019	#3
EXACTLY!	EffieBlack	Jun 2019	#16
I thought they were letting the world see what creepy fool he is.	greatauntoftriplets	Jun 2019	#40
Agree. Agree. Agree.	Hortensis	Jun 2019	#49
I don't think she made a mistake	Bettie	Jun 2019	#80
This. nt	Tipperary	Jun 2019	#84
It was disturbing to see	loyalsister	Jun 2019	#111
She handled it with aplomb. She would have been a good president.	Demit	Jun 2019	#123
She should have turned around and clocked him in the face.	gordianot	Jun 2019	#4
This message was self-deleted by its author	Chin music	Jun 2019	#5
I'm not a violent person but I wanted to slap	octoberlib	Jun 2019	#6
It didn't bother me at the time, but it seems it did hurt Clinton.	marylandblue	Jun 2019	#9
"feminist rant"?	irisblue	Jun 2019	#43
Sometimes rants are good ✊	marylandblue	Jun 2019	#46
Note what happened to Kamala Harris recently	fallrey	Jun 2019	#62
Interesting question as to whether a woman can respond effectively.	marylandblue	Jun 2019	#68
Women have to find	mercuryblues	Jun 2019	#78
IMO, the line is not imaginary, it's just very, very narrow and hard to see.	marylandblue	Jun 2019	#83
What?	Tipperary	Jun 2019	#86
Not sure what you think it sounds like.	marylandblue	Jun 2019	#96
That doesn't comport with reality.	Caliman73	Jun 2019	#70
This is nothing but the truth.	StarfishSaver	Jun 2019	#73
Yes, you are correct, that almost certainly would have happened.	marylandblue	Jun 2019	#98
The future of our country lies in the hands of competent women.	Caliman73	Jun 2019	#124
In an interview later Hillary said she was very aware of what he was doing	lunatica	Jun 2019	#10
Not from a position of weakness but from strength. I think my friend was saying that she should	CTyankee	Jun 2019	#21
Yes, but she didn't at the time.	lunatica	Jun 2019	#35
Trump knrw what he was doing. His supporters got the message.	irisblue	Jun 2019	#45
John McCain did the same	Scarsdale	Jun 2019	#63
Do you really think he would have complied?	EleanorR	Jun 2019	#81
Maybe she could have just said she would stop til he got seated. I think the moderator would	CTyankee	Jun 2019	#82
The she would have been criticized for being overly sensitive	EleanorR	Jun 2019	#85
Ah, but here's a retort to that:	CTyankee	Jun 2019	#88
Then people would have said he rattled her	EleanorR	Jun 2019	#90
Some people, yes. I, myself, wasn't disturbed by her ignoring him. I was furious with him, tho.	CTyankee	Jun 2019	#92
Your friend has no standing to tell Hillary Clinton what she "should" or should not do.	cwydro	Jun 2019	#120
And she had to make a choice	treestar	Jun 2019	#22
Yep, I agree	Metatron	Jun 2019	#66
If you mean me, I most certainly am not judging her.	marylandblue	Jun 2019	#104
I was agreeing with you	treestar	Jun 2019	#106
Ok, thank you. I know it's a sensitive topic, so I'm trying to mindful of that.	marylandblue	Jun 2019	#107
I'm still bothered by the fact that HE stalked HER.	demmiblue	Jun 2019	#11
Great point	EffieBlack	Jun 2019	#17
This!	mcar	Jun 2019	#31
I don't think he was. He was angrier at Trump and wanted him put down hard.	CTyankee	Jun 2019	#55
Or just giving him a quick glance	Zambero	Jun 2019	#13
It must be nice to be so certain what someone else should do in a specific moment	EffieBlack	Jun 2019	#18
No one can ever claim to be certain	Zambero	Jun 2019	#29
You think she would have carried Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin if she had turned and told him	EffieBlack	Jun 2019	#42
And if she'd done that, she'd have been criticized for letting him rattle her, throw her off	EffieBlack	Jun 2019	#14
"Clinton attacks Trump for walking behind her. Too sensitive to be Prez?"	mcar	Jun 2019	#33
She would have been called "bossy"	Takket	Jun 2019	#39
trump should have turned a lot of voters off, but white wingers loved it. Still hard to accept.	Hoyt	Jun 2019	#15
She lost with her own demographic	Zambero	Jun 2019	#30
That is very victim-blaming	treestar	Jun 2019	#19
I don't think he was saying that at all. If anything, he was saying that Trump should have been	CTyankee	Jun 2019	#25
She should have kneed him in the nads	pecosbob	Jun 2019	#20
Or, "Donald, are you having trouble finding your chair? It's over there....there you go."	tanyev	Jun 2019	#23
I agree; it was the moderator's fault.	LuvNewcastle	Jun 2019	#26
The moderator should have simply asked him, "Why are you stalking Mrs. Clinton, sir?"	sop	Jun 2019	#67
I thought it made him look like a complete psycho.	smirkymonkey	Jun 2019	#58
I remember that, and it still pisses me off. She made the decision at the time to ignore...	TreasonousBastard	Jun 2019	#27
He's a bully and the traditional way to handle a bully	mnhtnbb	Jun 2019	#54
And What Should She Have Done?	Me.	Jun 2019	#28
Yeah, I hear ya... prolly wuda won Hillary the election if she had read tRump the riot act for that!	InAbLuEsTaTe	Jun 2019	#32
Or not.	EffieBlack	Jun 2019	#44
she would have been described as a shrill angry out of control woman	treestar	Jun 2019	#53
But at least she'd be described today as the President of the United States cuz that's what she'd be	InAbLuEsTaTe	Jun 2019	#112
You really think if she had said something, she'd have won Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Michigan?	StarfishSaver	Jun 2019	#119
Russia would TOTALLY have backed off, and the GOP got rid of the data	ehrnst	Jun 2019	#125
I was totally pissed.	redstatebluegirl	Jun 2019	#36
I still think, if we're gonna play the "shoulda" game...	JHB	Jun 2019	#37
The fact is she stayed cool and persisted in her goal.	delisen	Jun 2019	#38
I expect this thread to go as well a the recent Anita Hill/Joe Biden thread.	SMC22307	Jun 2019	#41
No shit.	Tipperary	Jun 2019	#87
As others have already pointed out	Hav	Jun 2019	#47
Agreed	fallrey	Jun 2019	#61
ALLOW? WTeverlovin'F????	Baltimike	Jun 2019	#48
I'm still pissed about it, myself.	Paladin	Jun 2019	#51
"If only she hadn't been wearing that short skirt, been on that dark street, gone to his room ..."	StarfishSaver	Jun 2019	#52
Oh, cmon! That's not the same thing and you know it!	CTyankee	Jun 2019	#56
Yep, sounds like your "friend " is blaming Hillary.	Tipperary	Jun 2019	#89
Well, since he voted for her I am assuming he feels she is qualified to be president.	CTyankee	Jun 2019	#91
Voting's important but not everything	StarfishSaver	Jun 2019	#94
well, we were just indulging in a conversational bash of Trump, something I often do with several	CTyankee	Jun 2019	#95
It's great they're supporters of our women candidates	StarfishSaver	Jun 2019	#97
If any of them falter, I will be there to remind them of what you say.	CTyankee	Jun 2019	#99
Awesome!	StarfishSaver	Jun 2019	#100
Watching some clips of Republican debates, Trump uses male dominance as a tool	cally	Jun 2019	#57
I remember that 2016 Town Hall Debate	Niagara	Jun 2019	#59
How about this?	greymattermom	Jun 2019	#60
Tell your friend she did fine	MustLoveBeagles	Jun 2019	#65
Why would anyone	stillcool	Jun 2019	#71
I can guarantee you he has issues with women and I'll bet there's a lot about his mother...	llmart	Jun 2019	#75
I've always suspected he hates his mother for not protecting him from his father	StarfishSaver	Jun 2019	#76
I agree.	cwydro	Jun 2019	#101
+1	MrsCoffee	Jun 2019	#109
In the 2000 debate, Gore invaded Bush's personal space.	Drunken Irishman	Jun 2019	#77
Damned if she did and damned if she didn't, but I blame the moderators for not telling him...	Hekate	Jun 2019	#79
Same here - I was up screaming at the mods to do something!!	Runningdawg	Jun 2019	#102
I agree, Runningdawg.	Totally Tunsie	Jun 2019	#113
I know, the moderators. Do they have ear devices during something like this?	sprinkleeninow	Jun 2019	#115
I don't blame Hillary	marlakay	Jun 2019	#93
I think you friend might need to spend some time thinking about what women face everyday.	cwydro	Jun 2019	#103
The first time is hard but once you smack a perv, it becomes a reflex.	Runningdawg	Jun 2019	#105
She should've had an MP3 of The Police singing Don't Stand So Close To Me, & played it into the mic	NBachers	Jun 2019	#110
We were sponsors for babies baptized in the Orthodox Church.	sprinkleeninow	Jun 2019	#114
If she had done that, the media would have KILLED her over it	NewJeffCT	Jun 2019	#126
I'd have loved that - but honestly - she was damned if she did and DAMNED if she didn't.	Maru Kitteh	Jun 2019	#127
FFS	Proud Liberal Dem	Jun 2019	#128

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