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Bernardo de La Paz

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32. Secure elections super important. But impeaching without referral is Tribe's third option.
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 08:37 AM
Jun 2019

Impeaching with referral to the Senate for a failed trial can give us less than nothing: tRump would crow about it endlessly like he is with Mueller, and just as fakely but it would swing some voters.

No impeachment seems weak and not exercising oversight.

nope wrong ! stonecutter357 Jun 2019 #1
Read the DKOS diary NewsCenter28 Jun 2019 #2
" he's just not worth it" , House Speaker Nancy Pelosi . stonecutter357 Jun 2019 #3
Impeachment allows us to drive the 2020 narrative NewsCenter28 Jun 2019 #4
I agree. mnhtnbb Jun 2019 #5
If looking weak is the goal, we're doing a good job. tecelote Jun 2019 #10
Nicole Wallace is frustrated with Dems apparent lack of backbone. triron Jun 2019 #47
Yep. nt Susan Calvin Jun 2019 #14
I agree. Oppaloopa Jun 2019 #21
That's not her call to make . I don't care if she is the speaker . Susan Calvin Jun 2019 #13
lol it's 100% HER call to make ! stonecutter357 Jun 2019 #15
As to whether it starts, yes. I am aware she can stop that for any reason or none. Susan Calvin Jun 2019 #28
That's all you have to offer? (n/t) PJMcK Jun 2019 #26
If we don't impeach, he will win the argument that there was no collusion no obstruction. rainin Jun 2019 #6
K&R Mike Niendorff Jun 2019 #7
Begin impeachment inquiry now -- before it's too late -- because it's the "right" thing to do. nt earthshine Jun 2019 #8
It is the constitutional thing to do or do we no longer care about the constitution tymorial Jun 2019 #9
AGREE! Totally. It Is The Law. emanymton69 Jun 2019 #11
Open the impeachment investigations, otherwise Dems look weak and ineffective. Period. Bluepinky Jun 2019 #12
absolutely - it's giving up Locrian Jun 2019 #17
I say start the official impeachment inquiry but only impeach if there are votes in the Senate many a good man Jun 2019 #16
Yes, that is the path to take Farmer-Rick Jun 2019 #23
You immediately foul your argument with unfounded claims, such as... KY_EnviroGuy Jun 2019 #18
+ a million or so! eom BlueMTexpat Jun 2019 #22
Not impeaching sends 'horrible messages' to voters. mia Jun 2019 #19
I disagree. The Senate will not remove Trump. Impeachment gives us nothing. yardwork Jun 2019 #20
Secure elections super important. But impeaching without referral is Tribe's third option. Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2019 #32
Timing is everything. yardwork Jun 2019 #37
1999 Senate acquitted Clinton, in 2000 Republicans won Presidency & House, in 2002 they won Senate Dorn Jun 2019 #24
Gore really won, but a suit riot at the counting office & SCotUS swung it. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2019 #34
January of 1999 Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #39
I have seen very good arguments both for and against impeachment. Funtatlaguy Jun 2019 #25
i have the feeling that it is the unpredictability that is the hold up. mopinko Jun 2019 #36
He's weaponizing OUR government duforsure Jun 2019 #27
I don't believe we can have Dems saying he obviously committed hughee99 Jun 2019 #29
Yep. nt Susan Calvin Jun 2019 #46
If Trump is acquitted, he wins re-election (nt) Recursion Jun 2019 #30
Eschew binary thinking. Do non-X & all is lost! Do X & dog will deliver Promised Land! Nah to both. Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2019 #31
They need to get the facts out to the people... kentuck Jun 2019 #33
I can think of 77,740 reasons why you are wrong. SKKY Jun 2019 #35
What evidence is there to back this up? nt Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #38
Well, since commenters on dkos said so.... LexVegas Jun 2019 #40
We have to vote him out. zanana1 Jun 2019 #41
It's not the impeachment per se, it's the hearings. On television. nt Susan Calvin Jun 2019 #45
The Constitution can't wait until 2020 Fiendish Thingy Jun 2019 #42
Yep. nt Susan Calvin Jun 2019 #44
Another landslide prediction... sarisataka Jun 2019 #43
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