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mr_lebowski

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1. Changing the entire economy IS critical to combating ACC
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 08:43 PM
Jul 2019

Last edited Sat Jul 13, 2019, 12:23 AM - Edit history (1)

I'm not saying the GND is 'the way to do it', I've not read it.

But there is NO MORE IMPORTANT component to fighting AGC as a whole ... than switching the world economy away from the debt/growth based model it now operates on.

Just sayin' ...

Changing the entire economy IS critical to combating ACC mr_lebowski Jul 2019 #1
There is no model other than the "debt/growth" model riverine Jul 2019 #3
You are mistaken ... & the current economic paradigm has 0% chance of averting climate catastrophe mr_lebowski Jul 2019 #24
+1000 Tiggeroshii Jul 2019 #27
Why can't you name one? Just one? riverine Jul 2019 #44
If the economy is 100% reliant on perpetual GROWTH, that requires both more and more energy mr_lebowski Jul 2019 #64
oh, so you would force a Great Depression-like economic coma on the world so that riverine Jul 2019 #65
Quite frankly I think it's too late, we're f***ed, because you're right mr_lebowski Jul 2019 #70
Shouldn't you at least name one alternative ? hack89 Jul 2019 #47
+1 myohmy2 Jul 2019 #23
There's not much to read, it's just an outline with zero details on how to do it or.... George II Jul 2019 #49
Mr., it's a matter of focus, right? They want power and Hortensis Jul 2019 #58
I know a lot of folks here love her, madaboutharry Jul 2019 #2
Post removed Post removed Jul 2019 #38
I'd say Chakrabarti shot himself in the foot, but it's more like turning an AR-15 on everyone hoping highplainsdem Jul 2019 #4
No shit. All you have to do is read it and the read the platform of the Democratic Socialist! GulfCoast66 Jul 2019 #5
Yes, they exploited the naivete of AOC followers to pose as a climate change fighter riverine Jul 2019 #8
+1. And they blasted Beto's plan saying he got the science wrong, etc. dalton99a Jul 2019 #9
Not sure I would have posted what I did at the time of release GulfCoast66 Jul 2019 #16
The GND hasn't even been written. sheshe2 Jul 2019 #26
Wow, that's some sham considering that she's been pretty open about being... Humanist_Activist Jul 2019 #45
K&R betsuni Jul 2019 #6
Pretty nice subterfuge. dalton99a Jul 2019 #7
Now they have admitted it. PETRUS Jul 2019 #10
Of course! The RW mouth-breathers have always claimed that AGW is a "Marxist plot" all the while riverine Jul 2019 #12
That's absurd. PETRUS Jul 2019 #15
+100 Duppers Jul 2019 #42
Many are saying. Iggo Jul 2019 #52
so that's why they didn't support Jay Inslee JI7 Jul 2019 #11
The Sunrise Movement knows best. dalton99a Jul 2019 #14
That's the plan that proscribes upgrading every bldg in America for renewable energy or something. Honeycombe8 Jul 2019 #13
Yep - "Replacing or upgrading every U.S. building to achieve maximal energy efficiency, dalton99a Jul 2019 #17
Or perhaps a plan it's proponents never took as a serious climate change plan? GulfCoast66 Jul 2019 #18
No sh*t? Honeycombe8 Jul 2019 #19
I don't agree. They believe in the Socialist economic system. GulfCoast66 Jul 2019 #20
I'm afraid some damage has been done just by the mere existence of the GND. Honeycombe8 Jul 2019 #21
Not so worried. It a long time till the primaries. GulfCoast66 Jul 2019 #22
And? Is that somehow an unobtainable goal? Humanist_Activist Jul 2019 #46
Well, yeah. Duh. Of course that's unobtainable in the real world. Honeycombe8 Jul 2019 #48
You know that we can upgrade buildings over time, right? Humanist_Activist Jul 2019 #67
Yes. But not ALL buildings in the country. Honeycombe8 Jul 2019 #69
You are making it sound like it would be done overnight, when its not.... Humanist_Activist Jul 2019 #71
Changing the subject. nt Honeycombe8 Jul 2019 #72
To proscribe something means to prohibit it. Mariana Jul 2019 #73
Prescribes Honeycombe8 Jul 2019 #74
I guess Nancy Pelosi calling it "the green dream or whatever" wasn't so terrible after all. betsuni Jul 2019 #25
Nancy was too kind to AOC and her crew. comradebillyboy Jul 2019 #28
Dear Goddess. sheshe2 Jul 2019 #29
"This is not about me," said Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez... ." betsuni Jul 2019 #31
Oh let me think a minute. sheshe2 Jul 2019 #33
You guess wrong melman Jul 2019 #30
Not so far. betsuni Jul 2019 #32
So how come Kamala Harris supports it? melman Jul 2019 #35
I only chose Harris as my candidate because she's pretty. betsuni Jul 2019 #37
No she didn't. sheshe2 Jul 2019 #34
Yes melman Jul 2019 #36
Oh, melman. betsuni Jul 2019 #39
You have nothing. sheshe2 Jul 2019 #40
You have nothing. sheshe2 Jul 2019 #41
No, you CAN'T. George II Jul 2019 #61
It is just a dream - no meat on those bones, no details on how to accomplish it.... George II Jul 2019 #50
But all the other plans are no good dalton99a Jul 2019 #53
Is that all you got? nt UniteFightBack Jul 2019 #62
lol melman Jul 2019 #63
Single payer Duppers Jul 2019 #43
I think you might be confusing single payer with universal coverage. lapucelle Jul 2019 #55
Seems to me that AOC's Chief of Staff is overstepping some boundaries here. MineralMan Jul 2019 #51
I don't think AOC cares about negative publicity dalton99a Jul 2019 #54
You could be right, but it will have its effect MineralMan Jul 2019 #60
Wow. Addressing climate change is a socialist plot! Applegate Jul 2019 #56
Do Chiefs of Staff to Congress folks usually RUN THEIR MOUTH? Serious question. nt UniteFightBack Jul 2019 #57
Isn't It Time For Him To Sit Down & Be Quiet Me. Jul 2019 #59
Not if he truly speaks for her DFW Jul 2019 #66
Well If It Isn't Me. Jul 2019 #68
Kick question everything Jul 2019 #75
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