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Honeycombe8

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48. Well, yeah. Duh. Of course that's unobtainable in the real world.
Sat Jul 13, 2019, 11:51 AM
Jul 2019

It's not NEW bldg construction. It's every building that exists in the U.S. It's rude to laugh, but ......

Requiring new construction to meet current era technology is common. That's done all the time.

Do you have any idea how many buildings exist in the U.S.? Take a guess. That's office bldgs, medical complexes, single business structures, malls, strip malls, fast food places, restaurants, houses, apartment buildings, condos, shacks on the side of the highway that are used for who knows what, warehouses, bldgs associates with all state and federal parks, service stations, big box stores and complexes, hospitals, schools, colleges & universities.

There are 3144 counties/county equivalents in the U S.
There are 19,354 municipalities (cities)
There are 16,364 townships
There are over 37,000 special districts
There are almost 13,000 school districts

If you count the buildings in all these areas, I can't imagine how many bldgs there are. To retrofit them for some sort of renewable energy would cost a sum that would boggle the mind. Trillions, for sure.

I think it's better to come up with a plan that's at least attainable in the real world. It has to be reasonable in cost, as well.

Changing the entire economy IS critical to combating ACC mr_lebowski Jul 2019 #1
There is no model other than the "debt/growth" model riverine Jul 2019 #3
You are mistaken ... & the current economic paradigm has 0% chance of averting climate catastrophe mr_lebowski Jul 2019 #24
+1000 Tiggeroshii Jul 2019 #27
Why can't you name one? Just one? riverine Jul 2019 #44
If the economy is 100% reliant on perpetual GROWTH, that requires both more and more energy mr_lebowski Jul 2019 #64
oh, so you would force a Great Depression-like economic coma on the world so that riverine Jul 2019 #65
Quite frankly I think it's too late, we're f***ed, because you're right mr_lebowski Jul 2019 #70
Shouldn't you at least name one alternative ? hack89 Jul 2019 #47
+1 myohmy2 Jul 2019 #23
There's not much to read, it's just an outline with zero details on how to do it or.... George II Jul 2019 #49
Mr., it's a matter of focus, right? They want power and Hortensis Jul 2019 #58
I know a lot of folks here love her, madaboutharry Jul 2019 #2
Post removed Post removed Jul 2019 #38
I'd say Chakrabarti shot himself in the foot, but it's more like turning an AR-15 on everyone hoping highplainsdem Jul 2019 #4
No shit. All you have to do is read it and the read the platform of the Democratic Socialist! GulfCoast66 Jul 2019 #5
Yes, they exploited the naivete of AOC followers to pose as a climate change fighter riverine Jul 2019 #8
+1. And they blasted Beto's plan saying he got the science wrong, etc. dalton99a Jul 2019 #9
Not sure I would have posted what I did at the time of release GulfCoast66 Jul 2019 #16
The GND hasn't even been written. sheshe2 Jul 2019 #26
Wow, that's some sham considering that she's been pretty open about being... Humanist_Activist Jul 2019 #45
K&R betsuni Jul 2019 #6
Pretty nice subterfuge. dalton99a Jul 2019 #7
Now they have admitted it. PETRUS Jul 2019 #10
Of course! The RW mouth-breathers have always claimed that AGW is a "Marxist plot" all the while riverine Jul 2019 #12
That's absurd. PETRUS Jul 2019 #15
+100 Duppers Jul 2019 #42
Many are saying. Iggo Jul 2019 #52
so that's why they didn't support Jay Inslee JI7 Jul 2019 #11
The Sunrise Movement knows best. dalton99a Jul 2019 #14
That's the plan that proscribes upgrading every bldg in America for renewable energy or something. Honeycombe8 Jul 2019 #13
Yep - "Replacing or upgrading every U.S. building to achieve maximal energy efficiency, dalton99a Jul 2019 #17
Or perhaps a plan it's proponents never took as a serious climate change plan? GulfCoast66 Jul 2019 #18
No sh*t? Honeycombe8 Jul 2019 #19
I don't agree. They believe in the Socialist economic system. GulfCoast66 Jul 2019 #20
I'm afraid some damage has been done just by the mere existence of the GND. Honeycombe8 Jul 2019 #21
Not so worried. It a long time till the primaries. GulfCoast66 Jul 2019 #22
And? Is that somehow an unobtainable goal? Humanist_Activist Jul 2019 #46
Well, yeah. Duh. Of course that's unobtainable in the real world. Honeycombe8 Jul 2019 #48
You know that we can upgrade buildings over time, right? Humanist_Activist Jul 2019 #67
Yes. But not ALL buildings in the country. Honeycombe8 Jul 2019 #69
You are making it sound like it would be done overnight, when its not.... Humanist_Activist Jul 2019 #71
Changing the subject. nt Honeycombe8 Jul 2019 #72
To proscribe something means to prohibit it. Mariana Jul 2019 #73
Prescribes Honeycombe8 Jul 2019 #74
I guess Nancy Pelosi calling it "the green dream or whatever" wasn't so terrible after all. betsuni Jul 2019 #25
Nancy was too kind to AOC and her crew. comradebillyboy Jul 2019 #28
Dear Goddess. sheshe2 Jul 2019 #29
"This is not about me," said Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez... ." betsuni Jul 2019 #31
Oh let me think a minute. sheshe2 Jul 2019 #33
You guess wrong melman Jul 2019 #30
Not so far. betsuni Jul 2019 #32
So how come Kamala Harris supports it? melman Jul 2019 #35
I only chose Harris as my candidate because she's pretty. betsuni Jul 2019 #37
No she didn't. sheshe2 Jul 2019 #34
Yes melman Jul 2019 #36
Oh, melman. betsuni Jul 2019 #39
You have nothing. sheshe2 Jul 2019 #40
You have nothing. sheshe2 Jul 2019 #41
No, you CAN'T. George II Jul 2019 #61
It is just a dream - no meat on those bones, no details on how to accomplish it.... George II Jul 2019 #50
But all the other plans are no good dalton99a Jul 2019 #53
Is that all you got? nt UniteFightBack Jul 2019 #62
lol melman Jul 2019 #63
Single payer Duppers Jul 2019 #43
I think you might be confusing single payer with universal coverage. lapucelle Jul 2019 #55
Seems to me that AOC's Chief of Staff is overstepping some boundaries here. MineralMan Jul 2019 #51
I don't think AOC cares about negative publicity dalton99a Jul 2019 #54
You could be right, but it will have its effect MineralMan Jul 2019 #60
Wow. Addressing climate change is a socialist plot! Applegate Jul 2019 #56
Do Chiefs of Staff to Congress folks usually RUN THEIR MOUTH? Serious question. nt UniteFightBack Jul 2019 #57
Isn't It Time For Him To Sit Down & Be Quiet Me. Jul 2019 #59
Not if he truly speaks for her DFW Jul 2019 #66
Well If It Isn't Me. Jul 2019 #68
Kick question everything Jul 2019 #75
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