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Response to Tom Rinaldo (Original post)

Sun Jul 14, 2019, 01:20 PM

25. I have to agree

We are at this point for a reason. When Nancy Pelosi took impeachment off the table during the Bush regime many of their worst crimes became precedent. Only torture was eventually abjured. The rest--indefinite confinement for unproven terrorism charges, essential elimination of habeus corpus, politicization of intelligence, and the big one the invasion of Iraq--became the norm. So, when Obama took over we saw the results of this--he was unable to close Gitmo because it was now normalized. His administration expanded remote drone warfare against targets that often turned out to be civilians not terrorists. Oh, and one other thing was normalized--stolen elections. I think that history, if it is ever accurately written (remember the winners write the history), will show that the day that the Supreme Court handed the 2000 election to the loser of the election in a stunningly partisan move that was essentially a judicial coup de tat. The stealing of elections was therefore also normalized.

Now we have the logical heir to the amoral Cheney/Bush administration where all norms are being shredded. Trump has no Poppy Bush telling him that he doesn't want to be the one to go down in history as the President that ended the Republic. Trump and his cabal have stolen an election, blatantly violated the emoluments clause in the Constitution, are currently committing crimes against humanity by imprisoning refugees in conditions that have proven fatal to over 50 at this point, seem to be actively trying to destroy our relationships with our key allies etc. The list is endless.

And, again, Nancy Pelosi has taken impeachment off the table.

I think Nancy is a brilliant tactician, but an extremely poor strategist. I think we would be in much worse shape if she was not Speaker, but I think that she is making a terrible strategic error by not supporting articles of impeachment.

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