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Bettie

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63. And how do we ensure that the election
Sun Jul 14, 2019, 06:24 PM
Jul 2019

is free and fair?

Spoiler Alert: We can't, in fact we already know that it won't be.

Suppression, foreign assistance for Twittler, voting machines that have no paper trail and are vulnerable to hacking, all of this makes it unlikely that we'll prevail in the EC.

Then, even if he is defeated, he won't leave and no one will have the guts to make him.

The vastly larger danger is that PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2019 #1
+1 jberryhill Jul 2019 #2
Nancy Pelosi polls Democrats in the House constantly. MineralMan Jul 2019 #4
That's naive BeyondGeography Jul 2019 #27
There is also the danger that Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #7
trump already has been using this talking point ad nauseum. Nevermypresident Jul 2019 #37
Yes he has Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #53
Credibility to trumpers and repubs, so what? Nevermypresident Jul 2019 #55
Yes, you no longer associate the two Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #57
Why take the risk?! Because we have the rule of law and the Constitution behind us. Nevermypresident Jul 2019 #60
And how does a failed impeachment Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #61
Please...that's YOUR scenerio re trump not removed. I don't agree at all. Nevermypresident Jul 2019 #62
Based on what? Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #64
Maybe I wasn't clear. Impeachment in the House could very well help us further Nevermypresident Jul 2019 #67
Especially with swing voters? Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #68
How many do you think read the Mueller Report versus Nevermypresident Jul 2019 #70
I don't know Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #73
who says the Democrats are doing nothing? stillcool Jul 2019 #33
Thank you ismnotwasm Jul 2019 #47
Thank you wryter2000 Jul 2019 #52
Worry not about the age of the link. Next May, other people will still be posting this same link, egduj Jul 2019 #71
Correct... stillcool Jul 2019 #85
baloney qazplm135 Jul 2019 #46
This is what I've been arguing Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2019 #50
Spot on! nt COLGATE4 Jul 2019 #58
Well stated customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #3
Then we can arrange the funeral for America and it's democracy sinkingfeeling Jul 2019 #5
Or, we can vote the bums out. That's my preference. MineralMan Jul 2019 #11
There is no guarantee whatsoever that we will be able to vote the bums out. stopbush Jul 2019 #34
At that point, they blame us Bettie Jul 2019 #40
Agreed. To rely on the 2020 election misses the OP's many salient points. Nevermypresident Jul 2019 #38
They dont have to send it to the senate . But if they do and the republican senate protects him Fullduplexxx Jul 2019 #6
Trying to impeach right now and doing nothing for the next 16 months aren't the only options StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #8
Yes, and the House is doing just that. MineralMan Jul 2019 #9
Yes. StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #12
Another ingredient... kentuck Jul 2019 #10
Yes. Failing to impeach successfully will give Trump and the Republicans MineralMan Jul 2019 #13
Failing to even try to impeach will give them the same argument. kentuck Jul 2019 #15
Not as strong as failing to impeach after trying. MineralMan Jul 2019 #16
what do you think people are saying about Dems now??? Grasswire2 Jul 2019 #19
What people? MineralMan Jul 2019 #23
I'm hearing it from the talking heads on MSNBC. stopbush Jul 2019 #35
Practically everyone in my Resist group as well as many Democrats co-workers, Nevermypresident Jul 2019 #39
I don't know about that... kentuck Jul 2019 #22
I don't believe that Nancy Pelosi is that weak a leader Tom Rinaldo Jul 2019 #36
Right. They would not take a vote unless they knew the numbers. kentuck Jul 2019 #43
So we should abandon the best method to show the mass of voters exactly what Trump has done? guillaumeb Jul 2019 #14
Hearings are already happening. MineralMan Jul 2019 #18
Investigatory hearings into possible impeachment would carry more weight. guillaumeb Jul 2019 #21
NO Grasswire2 Jul 2019 #17
We can do that without the risk of a failed impeachment process. MineralMan Jul 2019 #20
end of futile conversation. I hope you and yours do not prevail in this attitude. nt Grasswire2 Jul 2019 #31
This has been my thought all along... TreasonousBastard Jul 2019 #24
Yes. Well, I'm one of those armchair pundits, myself. MineralMan Jul 2019 #26
Well said nt Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #29
If the Dems don't move aggressively against Trump now, there will be no 2020 election. Girard442 Jul 2019 #25
Nah. That's defeatism. MineralMan Jul 2019 #28
Defeatism? Versus some sticking their head in the sand... Nevermypresident Jul 2019 #41
So he can shoot someone on 5th Avenue and get away with it. rufus dog Jul 2019 #30
I wish you the very best of luck. Truly. MineralMan Jul 2019 #32
LOL rufus dog Jul 2019 #44
I agree with you, Rufus Mersky Jul 2019 #65
+1000 Nevermypresident Jul 2019 #42
People also declare that Nancy Pelosi is good Bettie Jul 2019 #45
+1000 Nevermypresident Jul 2019 #56
I agree with you. GuyNamedNathan Jul 2019 #48
drumpf will never be remvoed from office....... Takket Jul 2019 #49
The election is the only way to get rid of him wryter2000 Jul 2019 #51
And how do we ensure that the election Bettie Jul 2019 #63
So... wryter2000 Jul 2019 #69
Shining a light on it all Bettie Jul 2019 #82
So there's no hope wryter2000 Jul 2019 #83
I'm not seeing any Bettie Jul 2019 #84
Today, i doubt that Articles of impeachment would pass the House Gothmog Jul 2019 #54
We should expose everything in impeachment hearings and bring it to a vote. Bluepinky Jul 2019 #59
Here is how to proceed. Have the House offically open impeachment hearing. PufPuf23 Jul 2019 #66
what if we START the damned hearings and investigations ON TV? Hermit-The-Prog Jul 2019 #72
I haven't seen or read the details of "hearings and deliberations", yet. jberryhill Jul 2019 #77
Impeachment will do nothing but give trump a win. GulfCoast66 Jul 2019 #74
What if the impeachment proceedings Mr.Bill Jul 2019 #75
Bullshit proposition - "What if, after hearings and deliberations" jberryhill Jul 2019 #76
Pelosi has a rough job holding the Dems together, but hoping she does. riversedge Jul 2019 #78
She's not having a rough job, actually. MineralMan Jul 2019 #80
There is no majority as a majority haven't read the Mueller report Cetacea Jul 2019 #86
You've left the party? MineralMan Jul 2019 #87
Temporarily, in protest. I always vote straight democratic Cetacea Jul 2019 #88
it's not about doing the right thing, it's about winning an election AlexSFCA Jul 2019 #79
And doing the "right thing" is often poorly defined. MineralMan Jul 2019 #81
There's just one problem with leaving it to the 2020 election. calimary Jul 2019 #89
I assume that will be the case. What we have is just numbers. MineralMan Jul 2019 #90
Hold an Impeachment Inquiry first - it's extremely important to get out the info to general public. lark Jul 2019 #91
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