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Celerity

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40. oh, I m huge history buff, and the Bronze age collapse is one of the most seminal events in the last
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 05:42 PM
Jul 2019

12,000 years of human events.

Thanks so much for the vid!

Btw, the single most important event IMHO that shaped the entire course of history for the modern world occurred at dawn, December 11, 1241 CE, when Ögedei Khan died after a night of insane drinking due to the cumulative effects of alcoholism. If he had not died, and had live another 10 years or so, the Mondols would have (they were on the absolute verge of it) completely conquered all of Europe, and given a few breaks (especially if they went on to have a series of pre-planned orderly Great Khan successions) they probably would have succeed in what was always their goal, that being literally conquering the entire world.

Ögedei Khan's death was like the brain of a giant global robot (stole that from Dan Carlin, lol) shutting down, necessitating the withdrawal of Mongol leaders (and troops) from the outskirts of Vienna and Venice to return for a Kurultai (the grand meeting of Mongol warlords to choose a new Great Khan) in Karakorum (the Mongol capital.)

Imagine if the Mongols had conquered all of Europe and then finished off the rest of Asia and Africa, culminating with going on to North, Central, and South America. They certainly had the structural wherewithal (IF they continued the model set up by Genghis and Ögedei) to maintain control. to manage and maintain it all, again with the major proviso of orderly succession.


I mentioned Dan Carlin, the biggest history podcaster in the world

here are his podcasts on the Bronze Age Collapse and also the Mongol Empire

Hardcore History 9 – Darkness Buries the Bronze Age

https://tvoxy.net/song/76434725/Dan_Carlin_-_Darkness_Buries_the_Bronze_Age/ (listen free)

https://www.dancarlin.com/product/hardcore-history-9-darkness-buries-the-bronze-age/




Hardcore History 43-47 – Wrath of the Khans Series

https://player.fm/series/wrath-of-the-khans-series-dan-carlins-hardcore-history-2420352 (listen free here)

https://www.dancarlin.com/product-category/hardcore-history/classic-hardcore-history/







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