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91. That is the question of the day. Where's the #MeToo movement on trump?

Mon Jul 22, 2019, 09:56 AM

Jul 2019

This STILL makes me so angry. That pathetic little two-bit radio station with a lousy signal and desperate for ratings and more prominence, the cowardly pile-on by opportunists in and outside the Senate, and Roger Stone for Pete’s sake. What a sickening brew.

On edit - I remember writing about this and the one word I kept trying to get to, but didn’t (for some odd reason, I didn’t think of it) was “burlesque.” As Jane Curtin called it. That’s a perfect word to describe the ribald comedy that the “offending” skit was designed to be. How many times I covered shtick like that as an entertainment reporter.

Franken never even had a chance to defend himself. Nobody seemed interested. Guess it wasn’t “cool” or something.

And yet, where’s the #MeToo juggernaut on trump?

Al Franken was RAILROADED. I won’t forget. Not ever.

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The Case of Al Franken by Jane Mayer [View all] Dennis Donovan Jul 2019 OP

And now you know the rest of the story. democratisphere Jul 2019 #1

Justice denied, in Senator Franken's case; Dennis Donovan Jul 2019 #7

There is no excuse for Al's fellow Senators that steam rolled him. democratisphere Jul 2019 #49

I agree a million percent. MBS Jul 2019 #51

+ a brazillion. nt tblue37 Jul 2019 #96

+1000 smirkymonkey Jul 2019 #122

Pretty much confirms this was a political "hit job" DeminPennswoods Jul 2019 #58

and we've been getting punked since the 80's mountain grammy Jul 2019 #72

we don't do it to ourselves. we let limbaugh and sons do it to good people all day long certainot Jul 2019 #85

Absolutely right once again. Ligyron Jul 2019 #123

thanks. any dem that asks mueller if he saw evidence russians were using talk radio or certainot Jul 2019 #139

The entire thing was a Roger Stone ratfuck hit job. I hope Stone gets convicted and rots in prison. Texin Jul 2019 #136

the rest of the story is qazplm135 Jul 2019 #257

This article is truly wrenching. Those who defended the rail-roading of Franken REALLY hlthe2b Jul 2019 #2

...or this paragraph from his comedy colleagues: Dennis Donovan Jul 2019 #3

gee it's too bad these senators couldn't figure that out ProfessorPlum Jul 2019 #61

You are not alone. True Blue American Jul 2019 #180

I'm glad you contacted Sen. Brown ladym55 Jul 2019 #245

Sherrod is one of the best Senators True Blue American Jul 2019 #266

Well Bill, Tammy, Heidi, Angus, Jeff, Tom, Harry and Patrick, that's nice . . .. hatrack Jul 2019 #5

Harry Reid had already retired DFW Jul 2019 #23

Yes, and Heitkamp lost her election hatrack Jul 2019 #27

So did Claire DFW Jul 2019 #37

It didn't help them, either. We lost Franken for nothing. yardwork Jul 2019 #55

With an emphasis on "We." DFW Jul 2019 #70

Exactly! mountain grammy Jul 2019 #74

YAS!!!! nt Baltimike Jul 2019 #287

I'm not sure about that DFW Jul 2019 #26

Re: those who "continue to defend"... hlthe2b Jul 2019 #28

Exactly DFW Jul 2019 #36

Chuck Schumer led the Democratic coalition in the Senate. yardwork Jul 2019 #31

Kirsten Gillibrand led the Democratic coalition in the Senate. hlthe2b Jul 2019 #33

Laughably incorrect. Gillibrand is a junior senator. Schumer was the minority leader. yardwork Jul 2019 #39

Don't be condescending. We all know who is Senate minority leader, yet Gillibrand LED the effort. hlthe2b Jul 2019 #40

I didn't mean to be condescending. It's just that Schumer needs to be held accountable. yardwork Jul 2019 #54

I agree that Schumer showed poor judgement and leadership. hlthe2b Jul 2019 #56

BS Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #84

Gee, you are late to the thread! Slept in this morning, I guess. hlthe2b Jul 2019 #112

No working Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #147

Defending the indefensible yet again, right Tina? mountain grammy Jul 2019 #192

No just trying to recognize reality Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #199

Like Al was? mountain grammy Jul 2019 #203

Yup Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #204

It's just not condescending. LakeArenal Jul 2019 #108

+1000 mountain grammy Jul 2019 #182

Yep!! And,Republicans STILL laughing their azzzz off on how EASY this was to pull off Bengus81 Jul 2019 #272

Nah. I feel more like; LakeArenal Jul 2019 #273

She also said Clinton should have resigned. True Blue American Jul 2019 #181

wow, what a portrait of courage that is ProfessorPlum Jul 2019 #64

This is what happened with the Iraq war vote, too. The Dems let themselves be tblue37 Jul 2019 #101

I agree. "Stampeded" is the perfect word to describe what was taking place: herd mentality. Demit Jul 2019 #106

Oui! Mme. Defarge Jul 2019 #137

Yes, yes, yes!! mountain grammy Jul 2019 #183

As Agent K says in Men in Black ProfessorPlum Jul 2019 #186

And ACORN. n/t demmiblue Jul 2019 #189

exactly franken was acorned...the dems fall for it over and over questionseverything Jul 2019 #222

Yes, I was going to post it, too question everything Jul 2019 #290

Once more I cried for Minnesota, who lost a great Senator, and pazzyanne Jul 2019 #4

opportunist KG lost me too when she used this opp to paint herself as a champion for women. onetexan Jul 2019 #8

I couldn't either. pazzyanne Jul 2019 #10

I remain shocked by the reaction. RVN VET71 Jul 2019 #41

Thank you, well summarized onetexan Jul 2019 #63

Ironically, she could have gained even more popularity if she had called for the Ethics investigatio RVN VET71 Jul 2019 #150

+100 Duppers Jul 2019 #149

i hate how the author described him as "disgraced" - he was railroaded, but not disgraced. onetexan Jul 2019 #6

* This.* n/t Kitchari Jul 2019 #9

I take exception with your conclusion superpatriotman Jul 2019 #16

U're entitled to your opinion onetexan Jul 2019 #65

No. "our" had nothing to do with it. rockfordfile Jul 2019 #258

I know, onetexan.. I winced Cha Jul 2019 #19

exactly Cha. A good man and a great Dem leader was done in by another politician for expediency. onetexan Jul 2019 #135

+1 dalton99a Jul 2019 #83

Excellent distinction ... BlueMTexpat Jul 2019 #111

+1 geardaddy Jul 2019 #126

Bookmarking to read later FakeNoose Jul 2019 #11

As always, Mayer nails it... Dennis Donovan Jul 2019 #13

I agree, Jane Mayer is awesome FakeNoose Jul 2019 #25

Though a majority on DU not to mention in Minnesota want him back DFW Jul 2019 #297

I'll never forget... nor will I ever forgive. NurseJackie Jul 2019 #12

Full list of Dem Senators who called for his resignation: Dennis Donovan Jul 2019 #14

How many ringleaders were there? NurseJackie Jul 2019 #154

For me its unforgivable. And I am glad I will miss the oportunity to vote ... marble falls Jul 2019 #59

... NurseJackie Jul 2019 #157

After writing several still-very-angry paragraphs I decided to repeat your post... Guilded Lilly Jul 2019 #77

... NurseJackie Jul 2019 #156

KG is basically campaigning on getting Franken ousted, watoos Jul 2019 #15

Post removed Post removed Jul 2019 #30

The article delved into that as well... Dennis Donovan Jul 2019 #73

yeah, no opportunism there.... hlthe2b Jul 2019 #119

Post removed Post removed Jul 2019 #133

OMG LiberalLovinLug Jul 2019 #141

Thank you for posting that. That last paragraph should immediately end Gillibrand's campaign drbtg1 Jul 2019 #144

She has called for Trump to resign Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #97

I won't forgive KG The Blue Flower Jul 2019 #17

What about Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #98

see article and reply #73 above Hermit-The-Prog Jul 2019 #155

So? Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #160

have a nice day Hermit-The-Prog Jul 2019 #161

You too Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #164

Didn't Roger Stone have a hand in this plot? 90-percent Jul 2019 #18

Stone was at least partly behind the first accuser NewJeffCT Jul 2019 #68

Activist? Stone promotes himself as the number 1 rat fucker in the GOP grantcart Jul 2019 #86

sorry, I wasn't clear NewJeffCT Jul 2019 #90

Got it thanks😊 grantcart Jul 2019 #148

Yes...he did, and it's why I won't vote for the gaggle that fell for Stone's sucker bet. nt Baltimike Jul 2019 #78

There was a right wing troll who just pounded DU Kingofalldems Jul 2019 #20

There were MANY including some clearly on Putin's payroll. rzemanfl Jul 2019 #47

Dammit. betsuni Jul 2019 #21

Ditto. LAS14 Jul 2019 #35

The story is long, but well worth reading DFW Jul 2019 #22

Agree with you completely. Bluepinky Jul 2019 #166

I'm disappointed in every one of the Senators who called for his resignation femmedem Jul 2019 #24

To some of us, he never lost his reputation DFW Jul 2019 #29

I believed him the whole time marlakay Jul 2019 #62

I hope they learned, too, but I doubt it. It looked like a replay of "Julius Caesar." DFW Jul 2019 #69

I'm sorry to hear that... LAS14 Jul 2019 #32

It Seems It Was Out of His Hands at That Point... The_Counsel Jul 2019 #102

Post removed Post removed Jul 2019 #34

So why doesn't Franken run again? vlyons Jul 2019 #38

yes he should scarytomcat Jul 2019 #45

If I were him, I wouldn't want to be back with the people who threw me under the bus. catrose Jul 2019 #242

He should start a nationally syndicated Talk Show that specifically talks about trends Blue_true Jul 2019 #270

Roger Stone .... UpInArms Jul 2019 #42

I still like Al Franken Gothmog Jul 2019 #43

The railroading of Al Franken still makes me very angry. madaboutharry Jul 2019 #44

This. The_Counsel Jul 2019 #107

What pisses me off the most is Blue_Tires Jul 2019 #239

If either Klochabar wins the presidency or another Democrat wins... Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2019 #46

That won't happen. madaboutharry Jul 2019 #104

Why? The_Counsel Jul 2019 #109

Appointing Franken wouldn't stay a "Minnesota issue." madaboutharry Jul 2019 #124

Who cares what repubs think or do! Dont we know by now that in the absence of Kashkakat v.2.0 Jul 2019 #134

So what. The fight is always the same. LakeArenal Jul 2019 #234

The politicians, people like Schumer, don't think like us. madaboutharry Jul 2019 #236

So you are saying public opinion does not sway our Democrat leaders. LakeArenal Jul 2019 #241

Post removed Post removed Jul 2019 #262

I do think the governor, Tim Walz, would do it. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2019 #131

I like it Lulu KC Jul 2019 #115

I stopped all donations to the DNC, DCCC, and DSCC for a sinkingfeeling Jul 2019 #48

I just got my renewal membership watoos Jul 2019 #53

I do them monthly. sinkingfeeling Jul 2019 #71

And what did DCCC (or DNC) have to do with this? brooklynite Jul 2019 #172

If they, meaning elected Democrats, don't start taking steps to sinkingfeeling Jul 2019 #178

My point is: DCCC and DNC have no role in the Senate or Senate races. brooklynite Jul 2019 #190

So you decided to help the Republicans Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #218

You should cut out the smooching of the DNC etc.. at every turn rockfordfile Jul 2019 #263

By what measure Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #217

Difference between Dems and Repubs JT45242 Jul 2019 #50

Outstanding, excellent post! scarletwoman Jul 2019 #275

👀 underpants Jul 2019 #52

This breaks my heart Bettie Jul 2019 #57

ONE QUESTION...Where is the Me Too movement on the RAPIST in the oval???????????? Zoonart Jul 2019 #60

That is the question of the day. Where's the #MeToo movement on trump? calimary Jul 2019 #91

Let the people decide del19713 Jul 2019 #66

Franken had far more serious allegations against him than Tweeden the right-wing hack Tarc Jul 2019 #67

No he didn't Baltimike Jul 2019 #75

Here comes the Denial Train Tarc Jul 2019 #103

Why is a woman who complained that a man's arm around her waist made her uncomfortable because Demit Jul 2019 #110

Yes, as I recall she was the only non-Republican who wasn't "anonymous" who accused him, deurbano Jul 2019 #138

Wait...Wanting an Investigation is "Denial?" On What Planet? The_Counsel Jul 2019 #118

And yet you, rightly, supported the accusations, pre-investigation, against Kavanaugh, right? Tarc Jul 2019 #125

I didn't stopdiggin Jul 2019 #151

...the Hell Are You Talking About? The_Counsel Jul 2019 #152

False equivalency Bradshaw3 Jul 2019 #165

It is a correct equivalency Tarc Jul 2019 #283

Want some roger stone kool-aid Jakes Progress Jul 2019 #185

Why are you pushing Roger Stone type crap? rockfordfile Jul 2019 #264

Conflate much? Baltimike Jul 2019 #128

Yes, he did Tarc Jul 2019 #282

Nice try there. No dice. Because...really...NO HE DIDN'T Baltimike Jul 2019 #284

I'm sorry that you do not believe women who were sexually assaulted Tarc Jul 2019 #285

and I am sorry that you don't support a person is innocent until proven guilty Baltimike Jul 2019 #286

read the article, especially the last paragraph: Dennis Donovan Jul 2019 #76

Yes, the author investigated all of the allegations spooky3 Jul 2019 #89

The article does tend to Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #87

Lol! Nt USALiberal Jul 2019 #88

No, it really doesn't. Dennis Donovan Jul 2019 #92

I did Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #95

Was she included in "the other 7"? Dennis Donovan Jul 2019 #113

She was one of the other 7 Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #145

Keep trying! Nt USALiberal Jul 2019 #140

I always keep trying to state facts Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #146

She will drop out soon. Nt USALiberal Jul 2019 #162

Probably Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #163

There was nothing to discuss about Kemplin wellst0nev0ter Jul 2019 #244

But we can afford to Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #248

You said yourself Tweeden is a liar wellst0nev0ter Jul 2019 #254

Yes Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #261

The two other named trump voters wellst0nev0ter Jul 2019 #271

None of which is proof Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #295

So you believe Franken wellst0nev0ter Jul 2019 #298

Don't put words in my mouth Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #299

The one accuser that has HER arm around Franken for a picture--that allegation? Bengus81 Jul 2019 #250

Can you prove that? Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #251

The pic was on here forever,maybe I can find it........ Bengus81 Jul 2019 #253

I've seen it Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #260

But it's proof that Franken was lying? Watch out guys.......... Bengus81 Jul 2019 #269

No never said Franken was lying either Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #294

I don't think so. yardwork Jul 2019 #268

Think how valuable an active, office-holding Al Franken would be to us, right now. Paladin Jul 2019 #79

I pray this extensive, well-written article shepherds his re-entry into office. Dennis Donovan Jul 2019 #80

Thank you for posting this. Butterflylady Jul 2019 #81

CAN HE NOT run and win again? What am I missing - I mean if Anthony effing Weiner can Kashkakat v.2.0 Jul 2019 #82

Right. There are two Senators for every state and MN's are now filled by Dems Klobuchar and hlthe2b Jul 2019 #132

My fantasy is that Franken returns to the Senate when Klobuchar is appointed AG The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2019 #255

Works for me... hlthe2b Jul 2019 #256

One interesting passage. Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #93

Truth be damned. /nt tonedevil Jul 2019 #168

Which ones where those? 58Sunliner Jul 2019 #232

NOW in particular Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #235

Is it me, or do Dems seem to be more gullible than Repukes? Farmer-Rick Jul 2019 #94

I think Dems are more trusting Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #99

Shirley Sherrod says hello. /nt tonedevil Jul 2019 #169

way more gullible questionseverything Jul 2019 #279

There's some useful context about the photo Shrek Jul 2019 #100

After he resigned: "Gillibrand and other Senate colleagues flocked to hug him..." catrose Jul 2019 #105

Yes indeedy Lulu KC Jul 2019 #116

Good point. Bluepinky Jul 2019 #171

What happened was that Franken made some of his other colleagues look bad by doing such a good job PoliticAverse Jul 2019 #179

Excellent article and investigative reporting (as usual) by Jane Mayer. MFGsunny Jul 2019 #114

Excellent example of groupthink Lulu KC Jul 2019 #117

Photos proving another Tweeden lie spedtr90 Jul 2019 #120

She said that any time she saw Franken afterward her hands "clenched into fists." Demit Jul 2019 #159

Prejudice. MuseRider Jul 2019 #121

For me, the resolution is to call for an investigation and due process. Nt spooky3 Jul 2019 #237

I would love to see that. MuseRider Jul 2019 #281

I support Al Franken 100%. klook Jul 2019 #127

no hearing . no confronting of witnesses , just her word against his . AllaN01Bear Jul 2019 #129

There would have been no confronting of witnesses Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #173

thanks for your information AllaN01Bear Jul 2019 #215

The sadist thing I have read for months is Al saying NCjack Jul 2019 #130

This part, also: demmiblue Jul 2019 #142

I disagree with Al LiberalLovinLug Jul 2019 #143

How did Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #175

Take out a shining star LiberalLovinLug Jul 2019 #187

And your proof of that Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #197

Proof of what? LiberalLovinLug Jul 2019 #212

Proof of your accusation Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #216

I could say the same to in regards to Franken LiberalLovinLug Jul 2019 #224

No you provided no evidence Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #229

Prove that she didn't wellst0nev0ter Jul 2019 #247

I'm not the one making the accusation Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #249

Then Franken's accusers got a lot to prove wellst0nev0ter Jul 2019 #252

As I've asked you many times before Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #259

"Burden of proof falls on accusers not the other way around." LiberalLovinLug Jul 2019 #280

Very true Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #293

Fair enough LiberalLovinLug Jul 2019 #300

No that is not what the article says Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #302

"leader" "initiator" "first out of the gate" LiberalLovinLug Jul 2019 #303

Don't put words in my mouth Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #304

No one knows. LiberalLovinLug Jul 2019 #305

So all the others were just blind followers Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #307

She didn't. Mr.Bill Jul 2019 #191

How do you know that? Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #198

It's my opinion. Mr.Bill Jul 2019 #205

Opinions should be based on fact. Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #207

Where did I mention Hatred? Mr.Bill Jul 2019 #213

You didn't have to Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #214

Gillibrand should resign rockfordfile Jul 2019 #265

I've been waiting for that "Post Removed" person rzemanfl Jul 2019 #153

Saw this in a HuffPo comment: LongtimeAZDem Jul 2019 #158

It was a travesty Joinfortmill Jul 2019 #167

There's nothing new here, and Meyer leaves a lot out. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2019 #170

PLEASE RUN AGAIN AL. zentrum Jul 2019 #174

I'm reading the article and it sounds like Franken was railroaded more than I previously Vinca Jul 2019 #176

Gillibrand Can Attribute Much of Her Primary Failure To Her Treatment of Al Franken. Indykatie Jul 2019 #177

I called her office and warned them that grassroots Democratic activists will never ever forgive her Princetonian Jul 2019 #188

Maybe Franken wasn't the target leftstreet Jul 2019 #193

So what are you feelings about Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #200

They have been able to dodge a bullet... tonedevil Jul 2019 #208

Of course the media never bothers to question them about it Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #210

I haven't either... tonedevil Jul 2019 #221

The media is lazy Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #225

Whatever makes you happy. /nt tonedevil Jul 2019 #227

What makes me happy is irrelevant Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #230

Gillibrand should resign. She's a bad stain on our Democratic Party. rockfordfile Jul 2019 #267

Should Harris, Sanders, Booker and Warren Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #292

Franken said: "I'm angry at my colleagues who did this." I am too. Princetonian Jul 2019 #184

"I'm going to die alone in the jungle" Amazing how far back in evolutionary terms mob violence goes Hekate Jul 2019 #194

Franken resigned Progressive dog Jul 2019 #195

If you completely ignore the effect... tonedevil Jul 2019 #196

So again, you blame Democrats Progressive dog Jul 2019 #202

You think that the majority... tonedevil Jul 2019 #206

Yes, it is. Progressive dog Jul 2019 #211

I certainly have a different... tonedevil Jul 2019 #219

Well said. OnDoutside Jul 2019 #220

Yes, the police can decide to charge you, Progressive dog Jul 2019 #231

The abandonment of Franken... tonedevil Jul 2019 #238

What part of Franken's resignation Progressive dog Jul 2019 #243

OK /nt tonedevil Jul 2019 #246

You don't hire teams of lawyers or PR people if the allegations are false DFW Jul 2019 #201

Of course you hire lawyers Progressive dog Jul 2019 #209

Which women were those again? 58Sunliner Jul 2019 #233

I'm glad she wrote this article, but I hate how she characterizes him in the opening. femmedem Jul 2019 #223

I would vote for Gillibrand if need be. Collimator Jul 2019 #226

I am disgusted with everyone who railroaded Al Skittles Jul 2019 #228

I love you Al and I miss you. 58Sunliner Jul 2019 #240

Since posting this 13 hrs ago... Dennis Donovan Jul 2019 #274

+1 dalton99a Jul 2019 #296

Gillibrand didn't talk to any of the accusers to assess their credibility suegeo Jul 2019 #276

Just finished. Now I'm more pissed than the day he was forced out of the senate. IADEMO2004 Jul 2019 #277

What happened to Al Franken was travisty MustLoveBeagles Jul 2019 #278

The New Yorker has been bugging me for years to subscribe lordsummerisle Jul 2019 #288

I am so ashamed of the Dems. We are entering a new puritanism on our side of the aisle... Hekate Jul 2019 #289

And depending on how certain investigations play out lordsummerisle Jul 2019 #291

I've heard a lot about Franken since I live in WI just across the Mississippi from MN. elocs Jul 2019 #301

Here's one report of Franken's "misconduct" as reported in the New Yorker article. Vinca Jul 2019 #306

Oh brother MustLoveBeagles Jul 2019 #308