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Laura PourMeADrink

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108. Very true. He put a name to the investigations they've

Fri Jul 26, 2019, 11:40 PM

Jul 2019

been conducting to enable getting the grand jury info. Perhaps inadvertant consequences? If the investigations don't bring sufficient cause to impeach, over and above what Mueller outlined, as deemed by a majority of Democrats, we will have to state that there wasn't enough evidence to proceed, I presume. IOW, it all forces a conclusion statement one way or another. Similar to real Impeachment. We are golden if it it really does lead to real Impeachment. Hope so!

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Y'all do realize what happened today, right? And can we give Speaker Pelosi some props for it? [View all] StarfishSaver Jul 2019 OP

Yes indeed! elleng Jul 2019 #1

The Speaker has long had a strategic vision, and great tactical experience, empedocles Jul 2019 #2

Agree, and thanks, Starfish, for explaining it. Nt spooky3 Jul 2019 #24

The board is set. The pieces are moving. Removal is the game. WheelWalker Jul 2019 #3

Unfortunately, no matter what happens with impeachment OliverQ Jul 2019 #33

I think we all know that, but thanks for posting Dream Girl Jul 2019 #40

This was in response to the post about the goal being to remove him OliverQ Jul 2019 #42

At least we will have done oversight and tRump will have a black mark BigmanPigman Jul 2019 #76

The speaker didn't suddenly come to some realization pressed on her by the masses StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #79

I believe today's most important move was made by BigmanPigman Jul 2019 #80

Nadler acted with the Speaker's full cooperation StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #83

I think we must agree to disagree. BigmanPigman Jul 2019 #84

I read that the Speaker signed off on this mcar Jul 2019 #88

Very true. He put a name to the investigations they've Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2019 #108

But impeachment hearings will be dripping evidence into the public conversation all through election tblue37 Jul 2019 #106

As Pelosi said in the post-Mueller presser, if the senate chooses to stick with him after... Cetacea Jul 2019 #155

you mean like, within the system? stopdiggin Jul 2019 #4

This is a brilliant strategy mcar Jul 2019 #5

Speaker Pelosi has been at this too long to not have an Ace or 2 yellowdogintexas Jul 2019 #8

I would never bet against her mcar Jul 2019 #12

shes brilliant!! samnsara Jul 2019 #55

I feel like I just lost 10 pounds! lagomorph777 Jul 2019 #6

Thanks for this post. greatauntoftriplets Jul 2019 #7

the number of members supporting impeachment jumped... stillcool Jul 2019 #9

i just called my congressperson barbtries Jul 2019 #26

maybe it worked! stillcool Jul 2019 #93

I wish. barbtries Jul 2019 #96

no, he's still in the undecideds... stillcool Jul 2019 #100

he's moving in the right direction then. barbtries Jul 2019 #121

Now 101+Amash DeminPennswoods Jul 2019 #92

A House vote would have gone down in defeat watoos Jul 2019 #10

Whatever StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #13

+1 sheshe2 Jul 2019 #22

Yes. The 28 minute press conference is worth viewing! RobertDevereaux Jul 2019 #11

Link to video of today's Nadler presser... magicarpet Jul 2019 #23

K&R smirkymonkey Jul 2019 #14

Impeachment is in play, Pelosi & Nadler know how to play it FakeNoose Jul 2019 #15

Nicely done, iindeed. Progress. Hekate Jul 2019 #16

Speaker Pelosi is very smart and is doing an amazing job Gothmog Jul 2019 #17

Joshua Matz has a great article in the Post today EleanorR Jul 2019 #18

I needed this! BlancheSplanchnik Jul 2019 #19

I know how you feel. I was a big and loud Pelosi supporter calimary Jul 2019 #135

Imagine knowing what she knew...what she knows... BlancheSplanchnik Jul 2019 #153

I doubt she cares StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #158

Thank you for this, and surely do hope this is correct reading of events. somaticexperiencing Jul 2019 #20

wonderful news! I hope this means also that we will eventually get the unredacted Mueller report. nt Javaman Jul 2019 #21

How long can an "impeachment inquiry" go on? kentuck Jul 2019 #25

There's no time limit on an impeachment inquiry StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #27

Very clever move if... kentuck Jul 2019 #35

Here is the explanation, watoos Jul 2019 #28

What is your definition of an "impeachment investigation?" StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #32

If it becomes an "impeachment proceeding", it would go to the full House for a vote? kentuck Jul 2019 #38

Not really StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #47

I want you to write a book... stillcool Jul 2019 #89

Additionally, the WaPo story linked above DeminPennswoods Jul 2019 #90

Yes StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #98

No, but I would suggest this is tantamount to the discovery phase Volaris Jul 2019 #103

Thank you both our Madame Speaker and Chairman Nadler. sheshe2 Jul 2019 #29

I don't get the nicely played part. Starting KPN Jul 2019 #30

Truest words today..."the report was actionable". Strikes me Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2019 #63

They need public testimony from Donald Francis McGahn. Cetacea Jul 2019 #111

Yes, understood, the need McGahn! Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2019 #112

They've been laying the groundwork for this for months StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #65

Nadler could have asked the court watoos Jul 2019 #105

He would not have had as strong case for the material months ago StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #107

+1,000,000. Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2019 #109

So true. If the immediate outrage and support for action wasn't Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2019 #110

If we impeach Trump he will claim vindication at every election rally, because he won't be removed ehrnst Jul 2019 #154

+1 leftstreet Jul 2019 #85

See...NOw Can Everyone Just Chill & Let Them Proceed Me. Jul 2019 #31

As I Have Said Before, I Trust Pelosi (& Nadler Too) dlk Jul 2019 #34

Props for what? Delay? Hesitation? Political KPN Jul 2019 #36

Speaker Pelosi is making this an unstoppable inevidible. Impeachment has ... marble falls Jul 2019 #37

K&R brer cat Jul 2019 #39

Thank you, Madame Speaker and Chairman Nadler... Mersky Jul 2019 #41

Ditto ananda Jul 2019 #60

As the sports saying goes, "game on!" George II Jul 2019 #43

Heilemann just confirmed it on MSNBC. calimary Jul 2019 #44

She didn't give daily public updates on what they were actually doing, so many assumed ehrnst Jul 2019 #45

+1 betsuni Jul 2019 #86

Let's hope the court agrees this amounts to an officical impeachment inquiry. SunSeeker Jul 2019 #46

The court doesn't need to believe this is an "official impeachment inquiry" StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #49

The court needs to find it is "preliminary to" a "judicial proceeding." SunSeeker Jul 2019 #62

Here is the Lawrence Tribe tweets (including one with a link to the court filing) BumRushDaShow Jul 2019 #67

Today's pleading leaves no doubt that they've opened in impeachment inquiry StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #71

And specifically pgs 27 - 34 of the court filing discusses it BumRushDaShow Jul 2019 #73

Looks good. Thanks for posting all that. SunSeeker Jul 2019 #77

You previously said the process for opening an inquiry was a majority vote. Were you wrong? SunSeeker Jul 2019 #118

No, I wasn't wrong. That is the usual process. But I also said the chairman could open an inquiry StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #123

You didn't say it was the "usual process," you said it was "the process." SunSeeker Jul 2019 #134

OK StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #136

You might want to correct that earlier "Definitions" OP, since it is wrong. SunSeeker Jul 2019 #139

I actually did clarify it StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #141

No, you didn't. Your May OP is still wrong, why not fix it or delete it? SunSeeker Jul 2019 #143

As a thinking person who knows I'm not infallible, I welcome being corrected when appropriate. StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #146

Judiciary HAS a referral on impeachment DeminPennswoods Jul 2019 #94

What "referral"? Got a link? SunSeeker Jul 2019 #115

It's in the WaPo story DeminPennswoods Jul 2019 #116

Paywall. And the headline is just about what happened today, not Sherman. SunSeeker Jul 2019 #117

Here DeminPennswoods Jul 2019 #119

Thanks. Yes, it's what I thought. It's not a "referral," it's articles of impeachment. SunSeeker Jul 2019 #120

It's a resolution on Articles of Impeachment that was referred to the Judiciary Committee StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #125

No, it's correctly labeled a Resolution, as it is in your link below. SunSeeker Jul 2019 #137

You seem really confused, so let me help you StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #140

I'm not "confused." And you're not "helping." SunSeeker Jul 2019 #142

WHAT are you talking about? StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #144

It was DeminPennswoods who said Sherman did it "earlier this summer." SunSeeker Jul 2019 #147

Please don't blame your misstatements on another poster StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #148

You should take your own advice. nt SunSeeker Jul 2019 #149

H.Res. 13 StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #124

+1 uponit7771 Jul 2019 #66

Kudos to our dem leaders. For those here on DU that were unkind and totally impatient with the Thekaspervote Jul 2019 #48

I'm dizzy. GeorgeGist Jul 2019 #50

And I'm giddy! llmart Jul 2019 #130

I love my democratic party! ffr Jul 2019 #51

I actually am looking forward to hearing after hearing-- dawg day Jul 2019 #52

If anyone of those people testified publicly , I'd wet myself Funtatlaguy Jul 2019 #56

So would they. llmart Jul 2019 #127

So true Funtatlaguy Jul 2019 #132

wheels up Kurt V. Jul 2019 #53

this is wonderful. Court orders and hefty fines will be necessary! samnsara Jul 2019 #54

Good news, but.... RiverStone Jul 2019 #57

I think they'll come around StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #58

K & R BadgerMom Jul 2019 #59

I hope so Catherine Vincent Jul 2019 #61

Excellent news! Thanks for sharing. coeur_de_lion Jul 2019 #64

I am very, very happy. warmfeet Jul 2019 #68

Pelosi and Nadler know what the hell they are doing. LiberalFighter Jul 2019 #69

K & R malaise Jul 2019 #70

Do you have a link? My understanding is it's "defacto," ecstatic Jul 2019 #72

This has all the legal benefits of an official impeachment inquiry StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #74

Thank you. ecstatic Jul 2019 #87

This is not what happened. You're preaching complacency. EndGOPPropaganda Jul 2019 #75

When did pelosi say no impeachment? StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #78

Then what happened? Do tell. mcar Jul 2019 #91

Pelosi doesn't want to impeach. EndGOPPropaganda Jul 2019 #156

That tweet and story didn't age well StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #157

In fact, it aged quite well - it was correct. This original post is wrong EndGOPPropaganda Jul 2019 #159

Pelosi said "Impeachment is never off the table." betsuni Jul 2019 #97

Just getting stuff done! SallyHemmings Jul 2019 #81

K&R betsuni Jul 2019 #82

Yet, the punditry is still talking about how Pelosi DeminPennswoods Jul 2019 #95

I heard someone actually ask tonight why there was a need to do anymore investigating StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #99

As soon as that committee has the same thing as the Grand Jury, Volaris Jul 2019 #101

Nancy is simply the best! NT emmaverybo Jul 2019 #102

Nancy Pelosi is in charge and don't doubt her for a nanosecond. democratisphere Jul 2019 #104

Nancy Pelosi will "cut your head off and you won't even know you're bleeding", lapucelle Jul 2019 #113

She's a smooth operator, makes me want to sing. YOHABLO Jul 2019 #122

A not-yet discussed reason Pelosi may be doing things this way, but an important one: Liberty Belle Jul 2019 #114

The Speaker,et all - and the cognoscienti, have considered and strategized these options. and more. empedocles Jul 2019 #126

I wonder if secretly the Repubs knew this was coming. llmart Jul 2019 #128

That's certainly possible StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #129

Before I forget... llmart Jul 2019 #131

Experience definitely makes a difference and she's got it in spades, doesn't she? StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #133

Methinks the TIMING in all this is the key. . . DinahMoeHum Jul 2019 #138

believe it orangecrush Jul 2019 #145

We are impeaching bucolic_frolic Jul 2019 #150

Good summary MaryMagdaline Jul 2019 #151

Yes. StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #152