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watoos

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76. Just listened to former prosecutor

Sat Jul 27, 2019, 02:38 PM

Jul 2019

Mimi Rocha, she said the judge should give the grand jury info under 6 (e) to Nadler but it is not a slam dunk like it would be had Nadler opened up a real impeachment inquiry. Those are her words. In other words, as I have been saying, there is a big difference between an impeachment inquiry which is a judicial procedure and Nadler's committee which is a legislative proceeding.

Mimi Rocha stated clearly that it would be a slam dunk for Dems to get the grand jury information, all they have to do is open up an impeachment inquiry.

Why is it so important to get that grand jury info? That's where all of the witness testimony is found. If Dems can't get McGahn to testify, his testimony will be found in that grand jury treasure trove.

Nadler may get the grand jury info under 6 (e) but he may not. The only way for Dems to guarantee getting that info is to open up an impeachment inquiry.

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Impeachment Inquiry is underway [View all] blogslut Jul 2019 OP

WE HAVE LIFT OFF!! NT Grasswire2 Jul 2019 #1

Finally! Mr. Evil Jul 2019 #38

GOOD! Bettie Jul 2019 #2

It was noteworthy... kentuck Jul 2019 #3

Caught that line late yesterday. Wellstone ruled Jul 2019 #6

Good point! BlueJac Jul 2019 #9

It's even more important than that StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #11

Will the Court rule against them? kentuck Jul 2019 #17

If they defy court orders, they'll be in contempt of court - different than being in contempt StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #24

Thanks for the run down on the legal aspects, StarfishSaver in your two posts. Needed. NT emmaverybo Jul 2019 #32

Who would arrest them? kentuck Jul 2019 #41

US Marshals StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #44

Are US Marshals not under the orders of the Attorney General? kentuck Jul 2019 #51

They are DOJ employees StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #52

Good info! kentuck Jul 2019 #56

"The mob takes the Fifth Amendment. If you're innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?" lagomorph777 Jul 2019 #39

MOB-R-US kentuck Jul 2019 #42

Would love that...but it didn't sound like it to me. Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2019 #4

An impeachment inquiry isn't defined by whether or not it actually result in impeachment StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #7

THANKS for putting it so well. elleng Jul 2019 #14

Thank you. murielm99 Jul 2019 #18

That's mumbo jumbo, watoos Jul 2019 #29

No, you're not right about that StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #35

You are trying to tell me and everyone else, watoos Jul 2019 #40

Again, whatever ... StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #43

That's quite a reach but ok. Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2019 #31

Well said. CentralMass Jul 2019 #34

Yes, indeedie StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #5

NOW it begins. ElementaryPenguin Jul 2019 #8

I heard it first from you. saidsimplesimon Jul 2019 #10

! eleny Jul 2019 #12

THANK YOU! elleng Jul 2019 #13

The money shot crazytown Jul 2019 #15

Do 'articles of impeachment' have to be recommended to start the inquiry? triron Jul 2019 #20

No, nor as I understand it. crazytown Jul 2019 #22

Thanks for clarifying. triron Jul 2019 #26

NO, there would be no way to do that, elleng Jul 2019 #23

No -- not to start an inquiry. They could be the FRUIT of an inquiry, not the seed. n/t pnwmom Jul 2019 #25

Any Other Timing Would Be Open To Criticism lindysalsagal Jul 2019 #16

What I wonder about murielm99 Jul 2019 #21

I just hope there are enough honest, law-abiding judges left... pangaia Jul 2019 #19

It is the morally ethical thing to do vlyons Jul 2019 #27

Yes! Yay! Crossed a threshold to investigate under possibility of exercising Article I powers Mersky Jul 2019 #28

just internet chatter for now but ... Botany Jul 2019 #30

Nadler is going to the court watoos Jul 2019 #33

I also wonder why the democrts move so slow, especially considering the stakes of not doing anything triron Jul 2019 #37

My guess is they want the process to spill over into 2020; a lot closer to the election. patphil Jul 2019 #47

Some 2-3 Weeks Ago DallasNE Jul 2019 #36

yep. Pundits tend to be showoffs - their actual ignorance not withstanding. n/t MFGsunny Jul 2019 #57

pundits love to make fun of democrats and say they lost the battle. mucifer Jul 2019 #69

Yup happy feet Jul 2019 #70

The beginning of the end fescuerescue Jul 2019 #45

FINALLY!!! Joe941 Jul 2019 #46

That was fast! I just called my Rep. two hours ago and asked her to support an inquiry. OMGWTF Jul 2019 #48

Something tells me it is going to be an ugly August crazytown Jul 2019 #50

!!!1!!!! Made my Friday! not fooled Jul 2019 #49

Here's the petition formally announcing in DC federal court the impeachment inquiry.... mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2019 #53

thanks! that will be some good reading Hermit-The-Prog Jul 2019 #64

Thanks for posting that, watoos Jul 2019 #71

It must be an impeachment inquiry if we are to have any chance of getting grand jury info. SunSeeker Jul 2019 #54

Just listened to former prosecutor watoos Jul 2019 #76

I hear you watoos. I totally agree with Mimi Rocha. SunSeeker Jul 2019 #79

DU'ers had this figured out while Nadler and the DeminPennswoods Jul 2019 #55

K&R... spanone Jul 2019 #58

Bookmarked to read tweets later Catherine Vincent Jul 2019 #59

Yes! Cetacea Jul 2019 #60

Heilemann just confirmed it on MSNBC. calimary Jul 2019 #61

YES!! ailsagirl Jul 2019 #62

K & R BadgerMom Jul 2019 #63

OMG i've been traveling all day and missed all the excitement?!?&#! onetexan Jul 2019 #65

yesssssssssss Skittles Jul 2019 #66

Awesome, awesome awesome!!! warmfeet Jul 2019 #67

FINALLY burrowowl Jul 2019 #68

Read Nadler's petition, watoos Jul 2019 #72

No, the petition DOESN'T state that StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #74

See my post #76 watoos Jul 2019 #77

Read the petition StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #78

In Nadler's own words, watoos Jul 2019 #73

No, Nadler didn't say his committee had opened "de facto" investigation - The headline writer did StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #75