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PoindexterOglethorpe

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95. For what it's worth, I don't believe I've known anyone killed by a drunk driver.
Sun Aug 4, 2019, 12:12 AM
Aug 2019

Nor, as it happens, someone who was murdered. Probably people I went to high school with have suffered those things, but since I moved away not long after graduation, I'm simply unaware.

I do know about alcoholism. My father was an alcoholic who'd become more and more abusive, and when I was 14 my mother moved the five of us children still at home (oldest brother was in the army) from northern New York State to Tucson, Arizona. It was the best possible thing she could have done for us.

So yeah, I know about what alcohol can do.

sorry, no Skittles Aug 2019 #1
I'll put you in the category of wanting more massacres since you refuse to address the problem. LonePirate Aug 2019 #4
again, hysteria Skittles Aug 2019 #11
Agree orangecrush Aug 2019 #51
And there's nothing to get hysterical about HopeAgain Aug 2019 #178
repealing 2A and confiscating all guns something that is never gonna happen Skittles Aug 2019 #181
No because the defeatest HopeAgain Aug 2019 #182
no, it is not defeatist Skittles Aug 2019 #189
Assuming you mean "defeatists" Codeine Aug 2019 #193
So shhhhhh... HopeAgain Aug 2019 #195
We can talk all we want, Codeine Aug 2019 #197
But I'm basically told that there is no point in talking about it HopeAgain Aug 2019 #198
Because it's never going to happen. LakeArenal Aug 2019 #201
Not going to happen Calculating Aug 2019 #97
gun humping pieces of shit equate sensible gun laws with confiscation of all guns Skittles Aug 2019 #115
It doesn't help Codeine Aug 2019 #121
The OP said..confiscate all guns AncientGeezer Aug 2019 #170
yes Skittles Aug 2019 #180
Dumpster has a history of being for gun control.. AncientGeezer Aug 2019 #183
he is owned by Russia and the Greedy Old Pig party now Skittles Aug 2019 #188
Failure is never a solution, no matter how noble the intent Tom Rinaldo Aug 2019 #196
you have to change the gun culture or you will never get rid of guns. Thomas Hurt Aug 2019 #202
Thank you. nt Atticus Aug 2019 #205
i like my guns samnsara Aug 2019 #2
Said no shooting victim SCVDem Aug 2019 #3
I like salty and greasy foods but that doesn't mean I should have them. Time to give up your guns. LonePirate Aug 2019 #5
I like my guns too. Your tagline. LOL. Maybe not shot, but one was stabbed doing the dishes. zackymilly Aug 2019 #15
LOL, what a silly comment. nt USALiberal Aug 2019 #129
How will you confiscate all guns? WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2019 #6
Buy backs and then house to house searches, if necessary. LonePirate Aug 2019 #9
Oh, I didn't say it wasn't feasable. I was interested in what your idea of confiscation looks like. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2019 #13
You'd need to repeal the Fourth Amendment, as well, to do what you suggest. WillowTree Aug 2019 #20
As long as we're gutting the Bill of Rights Codeine Aug 2019 #29
Agree. (I try never to argue with wise people speaking the truth.) WillowTree Aug 2019 #35
There are those of us who firmly believe the 2A did not mean what Scalia said it did in Heller ... mr_lebowski Aug 2019 #45
I have no problem with your interpretation. Codeine Aug 2019 #47
Er, you mean when he wrote sir pball Aug 2019 #96
Er ... no I mean when SCOTUS decided in Heller by 5-4 vote that the 2A spoke to an Individual mr_lebowski Aug 2019 #100
Absolutely. And the second amendment does not stop us from doing what Australia did after emmaverybo Aug 2019 #108
Actually it does... AncientGeezer Aug 2019 #184
Before Heller, the second amendment was not interpreted as giving civilians the right to emmaverybo Aug 2019 #186
Guns should be better regulated. Blue_true Aug 2019 #30
Completely Agree RobinA Aug 2019 #64
And I say "good luck with that". Initech Aug 2019 #50
Sounds like Nazi Germany. Next, the house to house searches will involve deportation mzmolly Aug 2019 #164
Hard core authoritarianism. Right here on DU. MarvinGardens Aug 2019 #52
There's always been a strain of that here. Codeine Aug 2019 #57
You are part of the problem then. Joe941 Aug 2019 #122
Transparent. nt Codeine Aug 2019 #125
By not wanting house to house searches, I am part of the problem? MarvinGardens Aug 2019 #128
Become a cop. MicaelS Aug 2019 #53
That's NOT the answer either...and a very unthinking one as well... Backseat Driver Aug 2019 #103
So anyone who has any reservations sammythecat Aug 2019 #78
House to house searches? But I thought ACAB!!! What about that? Is this where ACAB doesn't apply? EllieBC Aug 2019 #101
House searches? Really? Agschmid Aug 2019 #124
They actually used the Codeine Aug 2019 #126
Will they get to charge you for other things while searching for guns bottomofthehill Aug 2019 #176
And they'll shoot my dogs while they search... nt End Of The Road Aug 2019 #194
I support the 2nd Amendment. aikoaiko Aug 2019 #7
Me too, and I also worry that the calls for Backseat Driver Aug 2019 #105
Wow. If it's really that bad kcr Aug 2019 #113
Are you a repub? Joe941 Aug 2019 #123
You're fooling nobody. nt Codeine Aug 2019 #127
Lifelong Democrat, Joe. aikoaiko Aug 2019 #131
Not very progressive. Joe941 Aug 2019 #142
I support civil liberties and one them is protected by the 2nd Amendment. aikoaiko Aug 2019 #144
Whats your plan??? Can't wait! nt USALiberal Aug 2019 #130
Not so much a plan, but things I support and don't support. aikoaiko Aug 2019 #139
We need reasonable Skidmore Aug 2019 #8
Punishment? RobinA Aug 2019 #67
All for gun control, though it would be a shame if this became a defining issue in 2020. Auggie Aug 2019 #10
Yup. And other parts of the constitution should be rewritten while they are at it. Joe941 Aug 2019 #12
Curious....which parts? AncientGeezer Aug 2019 #172
Those who support the 2A should be on the front lines of correcting the problems OrlandoDem2 Aug 2019 #14
Except they have no interest in correcting the problem. They love their guns more than life itself. LonePirate Aug 2019 #19
Can we start with your house? Archae Aug 2019 #23
Yes. I have never owned any guns and never will. Nothing to find here. LonePirate Aug 2019 #24
Ok fine, let's tear the house apart to be SURE you have no hidden ones, either. Archae Aug 2019 #27
I have nothing to hide. Sounds like you have plenty to hide, starting with your cowardice I guess. LonePirate Aug 2019 #28
I think you may have misunderstood archae A HERETIC I AM Aug 2019 #43
If that is what it takes to rid this country of the gun menace, so be it. LonePirate Aug 2019 #46
Interesting... graeme_macquarrie Aug 2019 #74
You're making ridiculous excuses. You must want the massacres to continue. LonePirate Aug 2019 #76
No "ridiculous excuses" I just want to know what graeme_macquarrie Aug 2019 #86
"You're making ridiculous excuses" You mean questions on how that would work? EX500rider Aug 2019 #148
We'll all be dead before that happens because people like you do not want to address the gun problem LonePirate Aug 2019 #160
Take a deep breath, dude. Codeine Aug 2019 #171
Maybe have the workers from.... Fla_Democrat Aug 2019 #88
That's ridiculous. AirmensMom Aug 2019 #41
The point is sarisataka Aug 2019 #48
OK, fine. AirmensMom Aug 2019 #49
I have heard it said sarisataka Aug 2019 #71
I'm not saying that. AirmensMom Aug 2019 #117
Wow. Codeine Aug 2019 #91
The lives of children are not cheap. AirmensMom Aug 2019 #116
I'm not talking about gun rights. Codeine Aug 2019 #118
It doesn't matter if you have guns. MarvinGardens Aug 2019 #54
Going to do that for other Bill of Rights, rights... AncientGeezer Aug 2019 #173
That simply isn't going to happen. Codeine Aug 2019 #16
It is simply out of reach ripcord Aug 2019 #151
Wouldn't it be a lot easier customerserviceguy Aug 2019 #17
I agree. PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2019 #18
That's like saying that everyone who drinks is fine with drunk driving deaths. MarvinGardens Aug 2019 #60
Somehow, I see a difference here. PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2019 #66
Half of American gun deaths are suicides. MarvinGardens Aug 2019 #80
Nope. I'm not okay with the suicides, either. PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2019 #82
So you're OK with traumatic deaths, MarvinGardens Aug 2019 #85
Somehow, I see a difference too. sammythecat Aug 2019 #94
For what it's worth, I don't believe I've known anyone killed by a drunk driver. PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2019 #95
That is not true. Alcohol is a major cause of MVAs in which other lives than the drivers' are taken emmaverybo Aug 2019 #187
You'd have to argue to SCOTUS the "Hunting Clause" part of the 2A..that doesn't exist. AncientGeezer Aug 2019 #174
How stupid can a person be to say this? Archae Aug 2019 #21
And a cheering section to support it. Codeine Aug 2019 #31
So you support enabling future massacres and terroristic events? That's what supporting the 2A means LonePirate Aug 2019 #37
Reductio ad absurdism has never been a convincing Codeine Aug 2019 #42
Your "debate technique" is the same as Limbaugh's. That should concern you. nt Atticus Aug 2019 #206
What concerns me is all of the DUers like you who refuse to support methods to end these massacres. LonePirate Aug 2019 #207
Reminds me of Bush II MicaelS Aug 2019 #77
It has actually worked in other countries. N/T AirmensMom Aug 2019 #34
Like Mexico? They have 1 govt owned gun store in the whole country. EX500rider Aug 2019 #79
How stupid can a person be to support the 2A and the resultant terrorism? LonePirate Aug 2019 #36
President Obama...? AncientGeezer Aug 2019 #185
Repealing the second amendment wouldn't make the right go away. X_Digger Aug 2019 #22
I agree. I am over here in Ireland where marlakay Aug 2019 #25
I like that the police don't carry guns. MarvinGardens Aug 2019 #70
I would favor limiting all pistols and rifles to no more than six rounds. Blue_true Aug 2019 #26
which will never happen, elleng Aug 2019 #32
So you're quitting and giving up? No wonder this country is in the mess it is in. LonePirate Aug 2019 #38
NEVER quitting and giving up, elleng Aug 2019 #40
Welcome to my ignore. Archae Aug 2019 #33
Everybody should put this poster on Ignore SCantiGOP Aug 2019 #102
Where's the fun in that? Fla_Democrat Aug 2019 #133
I'm with you. AirmensMom Aug 2019 #39
Re-read your last sentence. MicaelS Aug 2019 #75
Are you under the impression that nothing is illegal or restricted? kcr Aug 2019 #111
Comparison is perfectly valid. MicaelS Aug 2019 #145
When you use prohibition as an argument against gun control kcr Aug 2019 #150
Guns are toys for guys who are insecure. ExciteBike66 Aug 2019 #44
Is that so? EX500rider Aug 2019 #81
And? ExciteBike66 Aug 2019 #191
You have to be fit to join the military. BannonsLiver Aug 2019 #159
Ha ExciteBike66 Aug 2019 #190
We need reasonable regulation ... mzmolly Aug 2019 #55
If you don't want all guns removed from the streets, then you want the massacres to continue. LonePirate Aug 2019 #56
That's some simple-minded bullshit. nt Codeine Aug 2019 #58
I'm sorry you have a problem with the truth. A single gun is capable of killing numerous people. LonePirate Aug 2019 #59
There are distinct differences between mzmolly Aug 2019 #69
And yet many nations have private firearms Codeine Aug 2019 #72
Removed from the streets? mzmolly Aug 2019 #65
Then you want the massacres to continue if you want guns left in circulation. It's pretty simple. LonePirate Aug 2019 #68
Your thought process is indeed, simple. mzmolly Aug 2019 #73
The nuances are irrelevant when a single gun can wipe out an entire room full of people. LonePirate Aug 2019 #89
Let's remove all Nuance... graeme_macquarrie Aug 2019 #93
You seem not to realize LOTS of things can wipe out a room full of people. EX500rider Aug 2019 #152
This is a discussion about guns. Start those discussion threads if you want to address those issues. LonePirate Aug 2019 #153
Got ya, don't point out inconvenient facts that don't help your case, such that it be. nt EX500rider Aug 2019 #154
You're the one distracting from the discussion about guns. I wonder how many you own. LonePirate Aug 2019 #155
Post removed Post removed Aug 2019 #156
I don't even know why someone like that is here. BannonsLiver Aug 2019 #157
A single handgun is less likely to wipe out a room with more than six mzmolly Aug 2019 #163
Are you actually making an excuse based on the type of gun or clip/magazine? LonePirate Aug 2019 #165
No, I'm thinking your scenario through. mzmolly Aug 2019 #167
Va. Tech ring a bell? AncientGeezer Aug 2019 #175
Semi-automatics mzmolly Aug 2019 #199
Semi auto hand guns....ring a bell? 37 dead with semi auto handguns AncientGeezer Aug 2019 #200
.. Which is why we need to also address high capacity magazines, mzmolly Aug 2019 #203
Those weren't Hi-cap mags....they were standard to each pistol. AncientGeezer Aug 2019 #209
More than 10 rounds is generally considered high capacity. mzmolly Aug 2019 #210
You listed 7 states and D.C so not really "generally"....but the mags in the pistols I mentioned AncientGeezer Aug 2019 #211
I listed 7 states with laws defining 'high capacity' - so yes, generally. mzmolly Aug 2019 #212
This message was self-deleted by its author AncientGeezer Aug 2019 #213
And there are 43 others that don't..so not generally..actually rarely AncientGeezer Aug 2019 #214
Ok, ok. I'll admit it. sammythecat Aug 2019 #104
That button is sensitive, isn't it? kcr Aug 2019 #112
We need to also make sure people are enforcing these regulations too dustyscamp Aug 2019 #61
Agree. mzmolly Aug 2019 #63
"reasonable" means nothing Fla_Democrat Aug 2019 #138
Fair point. Though I don't think confiscating ALL guns in the US is reasonable or mzmolly Aug 2019 #162
I'd bet good money we'll see an uptick in guns & ammo purchases this week captain queeg Aug 2019 #62
I wish you good fortune in the wars to come Mike_DuBois Aug 2019 #83
It's amusing you think confiscation is workable. EX500rider Aug 2019 #84
How stupid. n/t flvegan Aug 2019 #87
I have the inherent human right to defend my home and family using reasonable measures. MarvinGardens Aug 2019 #90
Then you are on the side of wanting more of these massacres to happen. You can't have it both ways. LonePirate Aug 2019 #92
My favorite responses to this are #93 and #104. MarvinGardens Aug 2019 #135
Both are responses by people who have no interest in actually solving the problem. LonePirate Aug 2019 #137
Sticks and stones. MarvinGardens Aug 2019 #141
I suppose when you have no solutions to the problem, quoting nursery rhymes is all you're capable of LonePirate Aug 2019 #147
Your OP was not a serious proposal, MarvinGardens Aug 2019 #161
Using this same reasoning, I have seen what can happen when guns are easily available. CTyankee Aug 2019 #119
I am very sorry for your loss. MarvinGardens Aug 2019 #132
It's a good thing that you re-evaluate your ideas on guns in the home. CTyankee Aug 2019 #136
Keeping my guns Calculating Aug 2019 #98
You're just making excuses to continue the massacres no matter how much you fool yourself. LonePirate Aug 2019 #99
You are part of the problem then. Joe941 Aug 2019 #120
Every other sane country has done this. kcr Aug 2019 #106
Plenty of perfectly wonderful and peaceful places Codeine Aug 2019 #107
There is no rational argument for massacres but gun apologists like you don't want to prevent them. LonePirate Aug 2019 #109
Are we a perfectly wonderful and peaceful place? kcr Aug 2019 #110
The OP was not a liberal post. MarvinGardens Aug 2019 #140
Claiming owning weapons that can mow down people in minutes is a right kcr Aug 2019 #143
I think that's debatable. MarvinGardens Aug 2019 #168
Oh, hey! Another mass shooting happening right now kcr Aug 2019 #114
I feel you, but disagree. lark Aug 2019 #134
It's really time for a constitutional convention fescuerescue Aug 2019 #146
Thank you! Nice to hear from someone who understands the crux of the proboem. LonePirate Aug 2019 #149
How do you think the Trumpsters will change the Constitution? hack89 Aug 2019 #192
This is not going to happen. ismnotwasm Aug 2019 #158
My family and most in the area I was raised hunt... out of necessity. KentuckyWoman Aug 2019 #166
Yeah, that'll work... cynatnite Aug 2019 #169
If you are in touch with reality you will know neither of those will happen. n/t elocs Aug 2019 #177
I live in deep west texas gay texan Aug 2019 #179
Outlaw the Ownership of Assault Weapons and High Capacity Magazines waterwatcher123 Aug 2019 #204
The rhetoric of the right has clearly incited this violence, as hughee99 Aug 2019 #208
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