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Robot_Ears

(10 posts)
114. Half right
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 04:04 PM
Aug 2019

I agree with the first part, there are more guns than people in the country and it would be nearly impossible to get rid of them all.

Even this idea of magazine bans is nothing but a pipe dream, most guns come with at least 1-3 magazines. So for every semi-automatic in circulations there are even more magazines. Most people who are serious about self defense have any where from 3-10 magazines per weapon and every time a magazine or AWB comes up people go out and buy in droves.

When it comes to common magazine fed semi-automatic rifles (AR-15s, AK-47s, etc) the estimates range from 5-20 million in circulation (out of roughly 350 million plus guns in circulation) and as someone who goes to the range I think these estimates are fairly low. I say this is because there is no record of what is out there and every time I go to the range at least half of the people on the range with me have at least one magazine fed semi-auto rifle.

As for your comment that the second amendment only applies to a "well regulated militia" Heller made clear that the Second Amendment protects an individual's Right to keep and bear arms.

Essentially - I'm in the boat that due to the second amendment love it or hate it, firearms have become too prevalent in the United States to do anything about. It's nice to dream about us getting rid of all of them and starting from scratch, but the genie just isn't going to go back in the bottle.

That is the only way, of course. Eliot Rosewater Aug 2019 #1
That's where I'm at. Joe941 Aug 2019 #3
Making all long rifles illegal. Australia did a few years back and they are OFF the streets. marble falls Aug 2019 #2
And we have as much chance of doing that as we do banning all guns. Eliot Rosewater Aug 2019 #4
Half right Robot_Ears Aug 2019 #114
This message was self-deleted by its author Eliot Rosewater Aug 2019 #122
All rifles or just semi automatic? dem4decades Aug 2019 #9
Semiautomatic handguns are nearly as dangerous exboyfil Aug 2019 #10
+1 uponit7771 Aug 2019 #28
If that's the case, how is it there are more guns in Australia now than before Port Arthur? Marengo Aug 2019 #44
Read the entire link, did you? jimmy the one Aug 2019 #62
Think that's relevant to my point, do you? It's not, and you know that. Marengo Aug 2019 #65
population increase is entirely relevant jimmy the one Aug 2019 #72
True or False: There are more firearms in Australia now than prior to Port Arthur. Answer honestly.. Marengo Aug 2019 #75
He could(it would be yes).....he won't. AncientGeezer Aug 2019 #91
The combined weight of fire is now considerably lower VMA131Marine Aug 2019 #106
Which is irrelevant to my point. My refutation of the claim in post #2 is based solely on quantity, Marengo Aug 2019 #108
Then your point is itself irrelevant VMA131Marine Aug 2019 #111
The US is not Australia Robot_Ears Aug 2019 #117
Ugh, let's try a different approach. Post #2 stated Australia had banned ALL rifles. This is not... Marengo Aug 2019 #120
I agree, Aussies can be allowed to have guns, since they have so much less gun violence ExciteBike66 Aug 2019 #102
Posts like this make me crazy. Try researching what has happened with the rest of the world hlthe2b Aug 2019 #5
Mass shootings went down. Joe941 Aug 2019 #8
A "red flag" law might have stopped the Parkland shooter, who had The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2019 #6
Eliminate magazine fed semiautomatic weapons exboyfil Aug 2019 #7
I'd be ok with belt fed Fla_Democrat Aug 2019 #33
We could restrict clip size TheRealNorth Aug 2019 #11
That would be key. Shooters also often make mistakes and jam their gun(s) underpants Aug 2019 #101
Limiting magazine size would be a damn good start. 3catwoman3 Aug 2019 #12
Confiscate existing magazines? I say that would need to be part of it. Joe941 Aug 2019 #13
Fine by me. 3catwoman3 Aug 2019 #16
Yep. Hunting federally regulated game birds you are mandated 3 shell maximum. GulfCoast66 Aug 2019 #19
Thanks for validating... 3catwoman3 Aug 2019 #20
That's apples to oranges.....the capacity of the shotgun doesn't change... AncientGeezer Aug 2019 #92
In my 12-gauge pump shotgun, the plug is just a piece of 3/8 wood dowel. MineralMan Aug 2019 #94
Except the OP was about semi-autos.....not pumps. AncientGeezer Aug 2019 #100
The spring goes full-length and is almost magazine diameter. The plug fits inside the spring. MineralMan Aug 2019 #105
Ageed. Caliman73 Aug 2019 #121
I suspect you are using a "rod" that runs through the spring... AncientGeezer Aug 2019 #124
Transparent. nt Codeine Aug 2019 #14
+1. You got it .. obnoxiousdrunk Aug 2019 #21
It's been evident for months Codeine Aug 2019 #22
People Control, Not Gun Control Sancho Aug 2019 #15
All of your recommendations sound fine to me. 3catwoman3 Aug 2019 #17
None of these licensing ideas would be "unconstitutional".... Sancho Aug 2019 #68
If a law is seen by the courts as making guns "difficult to obtain" Calista241 Aug 2019 #87
A new National Firearms Act. MicaelS Aug 2019 #18
Chris Rock's law. rownesheck Aug 2019 #23
So only the 1%-- like Chris Rock could afford guns. former9thward Aug 2019 #25
Not too many of the 1% are terrorist uponit7771 Aug 2019 #26
On the contrary: They ALL are. Straw Man Aug 2019 #46
Actually they just hire security guards. Joe941 Aug 2019 #95
If magazines for rifles and handguns were limited to 6 or 8, GulfCoast66 Aug 2019 #24
+1 uponit7771 Aug 2019 #27
How easily could larger magazines be 3D printed/CNC'd and assembled at home? Sapient Donkey Aug 2019 #52
There will always be lots of them floating around. GulfCoast66 Aug 2019 #73
Very easily, the files already exist Amishman Aug 2019 #80
And that little 9 year girl who was murdered in the Tucson massacre would still be alive aeromanKC Aug 2019 #53
The law that bans guns. The law that orders them melted. Stinky The Clown Aug 2019 #29
It should work as well customerserviceguy Aug 2019 #40
What's your idea? Stinky The Clown Aug 2019 #42
It doesn't matter customerserviceguy Aug 2019 #43
Flame bait. stopbush Aug 2019 #30
Standard operating procedure Codeine Aug 2019 #32
Oh Nonsense! RobinA Aug 2019 #74
You are not the poster to whom I am alluding. Codeine Aug 2019 #85
why bother? Joe941 Aug 2019 #90
You'd be better positioned to answer that than I. nt Codeine Aug 2019 #97
Given how often we're seeing these crimes committed by young people, I think a Fed Ban on mr_lebowski Aug 2019 #31
You've got a point there customerserviceguy Aug 2019 #41
90% reduction in # of mass shootings if the law said... at140 Aug 2019 #34
The "assault weapon ban" seemed to help, BG checks for all transfers would help some, Hoyt Aug 2019 #35
Many of the laws that other posters have already shared ConnorMarc Aug 2019 #36
I am really sick and tired of that f**king sorry ass excuse how it would not have stopped anything still_one Aug 2019 #37
What exactly is a "so-called assault" weapon? Ligyron Aug 2019 #47
Really !? This tired terminology deflection ?! uponit7771 Aug 2019 #48
It seems undemocratic to me. Ligyron Aug 2019 #49
Require gun manufacturers to obtain a federal Voltaire2 Aug 2019 #60
That's already law..from a big 1 like Remington... AncientGeezer Aug 2019 #82
This is a poorly framed question. Laws alone don't stop crimes. Yavin4 Aug 2019 #38
Yup. If we had a law that everybody would obey, it would be this... Lucid Dreamer Aug 2019 #50
Take away the guns. PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2019 #39
Make it a felony for anyone with testicles to own or handle guns. hunter Aug 2019 #45
With over 300 million gazzillion bazillion guns in America aeromanKC Aug 2019 #51
The one they passed in Australia that's stopped all the major mass shooting since 1996. meadowlander Aug 2019 #54
USA law can't stop mass shootings, but new laws can reduce the severity of mass shootings. NeoKryten Aug 2019 #55
I posted this the other day, letting the assault weapons ban expire was the worst mistake! Rhiannon12866 Aug 2019 #56
Welcome to DU Clash City Rocker Aug 2019 #67
We can ban assault rifles radical noodle Aug 2019 #79
welcome to DU gopiscrap Aug 2019 #123
A law banning press coverage, requires amending constitution Cicada Aug 2019 #57
So keep gun rights; remove freedom of speech? Iris Aug 2019 #58
So scrap the 1st amendment instead of the2bd. Voltaire2 Aug 2019 #61
I support the first amendment and would repeal the second amendment Cicada Aug 2019 #69
It seems much of DU takes a dim view Codeine Aug 2019 #66
I love the first amendment. But a tiny change is ok. Cicada Aug 2019 #70
Also ban hate speech - free speech should not support hate. Joe941 Aug 2019 #78
Completely transparent. nt Codeine Aug 2019 #83
They have tighter MFM008 Aug 2019 #59
Low capacity mags sunflowerseed Aug 2019 #63
There's no magic bullet and guns will never be banned in this country. Vinca Aug 2019 #64
Oh, how about... 3c273a Aug 2019 #71
The only way to significantly reduce gun violence is to substantially reduce the number jmg257 Aug 2019 #76
Red flag laws would have stopped some. lark Aug 2019 #77
Confiscate the guns of all domestic abusers. CrispyQ Aug 2019 #81
I bet that is a good indicator. Joe941 Aug 2019 #89
It's crazy that men who beat their wives are allowed guns. CrispyQ Aug 2019 #99
Love your neighbor as you love yourself. theophilus Aug 2019 #84
It's impossible to say which specific shootings would be prevented Bradical79 Aug 2019 #86
How Average, Joe. LanternWaste Aug 2019 #88
That would be the law. A ban on AR-15 and AK-47 type rifles. MineralMan Aug 2019 #93
Bill Clinton's Assault Weapons Ban would be a good place to start Hekate Aug 2019 #96
Bill's AWB would leave the 20million AWs out there alone, and would allow for millions more jmg257 Aug 2019 #109
"Good place to start" is what I said. But AWB sunsetted & everything got worse. Hekate Aug 2019 #112
Yes because time passed. I think if we are gonna start, it should be something truly effective. jmg257 Aug 2019 #113
6th month waiting period for MSSAs under 30 years of age. maxsolomon Aug 2019 #98
Mass shootings can be drastically curbed by banning semiautomatic democratisphere Aug 2019 #103
Our inability to regulate firearms shows our culture values them over human life DBoon Aug 2019 #104
we have a precedent qazplm135 Aug 2019 #107
Certain increase since, not much difference during... jmg257 Aug 2019 #110
We clearly qazplm135 Aug 2019 #116
No worries - certainly a huge increase since. Per jmg257 Aug 2019 #119
more data qazplm135 Aug 2019 #118
I can't think of any specific law that would have stopped 5 of the last 10 mass shootings. Captain Stern Aug 2019 #115
People focus too much on mass shootings inwiththenew Aug 2019 #125
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