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kozar

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30. My thoughts too

Sat Aug 10, 2019, 01:25 PM

Aug 2019

Epstein was not the King in this chess match,,he was just portrayed to be. The sick preyers still control the board.

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Why I don't (necessarily) buy Epstein conspiracy theories [View all] cab67 Aug 2019 OP

the point is, he was allowed to kill himself. 5X Aug 2019 #1

This happens in prisons a lot. Even high-profiled prisoners are mishandled, because the system is a WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2019 #6

There's no excuse for taking him off of suicide watch after only 6 days. pnwmom Aug 2019 #52

There's no conspiracy. He died as he always lived -- by cheating. Someone like that always makes WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2019 #2

In my opinion this observation wins the day. gordianot Aug 2019 #15

Excellent point. cwydro Aug 2019 #45

Agreed customerserviceguy Aug 2019 #82

Sometimes it is what it is. Srkdqltr Aug 2019 #3

The conspiracy theories have started and will never end. Cyrano Aug 2019 #4

Call it a conspiracy theory if you want, I call it common sense. brush Aug 2019 #13

It did not "just come out" that he introduced those two grifters essme Aug 2019 #25

I don't think there's a conspiracy theory here either. IMO his death... brush Aug 2019 #28

Even if Epstein could have fingered Trump or other powerful people... brooklynite Aug 2019 #75

What if Epstein was selling his blackmail information to Putin njhoneybadger Aug 2019 #80

Nothing to see here folks... FiveGoodMen Aug 2019 #35

He was murdered , sigh...the most powerful men in the world wanted him silenced Eliot Rosewater Aug 2019 #5

Conspiracy theories are common here. I'm not sure what folks think Epstein was going to reveal, Hoyt Aug 2019 #7

K&R n/t RKP5637 Aug 2019 #9

He consistently pleaded the fifth according to the document release yesterday. nt chowder66 Aug 2019 #11

According to at least one of the underaged girls that was quoted in the Jane Doe Nevermypresident Aug 2019 #18

I don't even believe you're Hoyt True Dough Aug 2019 #27

That's one of those conspiracy theories I'm talking about. I am a famous Hoyt Aug 2019 #34

I don't recall any bad blood between us, "Hoyt" True Dough Aug 2019 #42

You're good. Hoyt Aug 2019 #65

Phew! True Dough Aug 2019 #66

...or that would be believed StarfishSaver Aug 2019 #50

Please. There's supposed to be nothing to hook to in those cells to hang yourself. brush Aug 2019 #8

Exactly. I love the chorus of "reason" - Occam's razor and all that. harumph Aug 2019 #17

Sooo...he drove (or somehow found a way) to the bridge...put his shoes in place because... cwydro Aug 2019 #48

1947 - upstate NY. harumph Aug 2019 #57

Of course people do it. cwydro Aug 2019 #60

My thoughts too kozar Aug 2019 #30

Correct. If you play chess you know the king is far from the most powerful piece. brush Aug 2019 #32

In Response To Your Number #1 Point..... global1 Aug 2019 #10

It's surprisingly common cab67 Aug 2019 #19

Any Numbers? Links? ..... global1 Aug 2019 #23

I don't know of any dedicated web pages cab67 Aug 2019 #26

I've Read About Victim's Suicide .... global1 Aug 2019 #31

I said 'surprisingly common.' cab67 Aug 2019 #36

Not in federal prisons and definitely not in MCC where Epstein was held Arazi Aug 2019 #39

But Ghislaine Maxwell's own father did as his empire crumbled down arounf his ears ... marble falls Aug 2019 #71

Move along, nothing to see here. Nothing suspicious here at all. LisaL Aug 2019 #12

I never said there was nothing to see here. cab67 Aug 2019 #21

Wake up. Do not believe a word out of the trump/barr cabal. brush Aug 2019 #62

Every time someone references Oswald CT another angel somewhere loses his wings. nt BootinUp Aug 2019 #14

Not sure there was a conspiracy there, either. cab67 Aug 2019 #24

I don't buy the CTs either DeminPennswoods Aug 2019 #16

Who authorized him to be taken off of suicide watch? panader0 Aug 2019 #20

I wonder if there's software AI that can detect strange/dangerous physical behavior mr_lebowski Aug 2019 #68

Probably. meadowlander Aug 2019 #79

This!: "Epstein was followed for many years, and the records are already in hand." Leghorn21 Aug 2019 #22

We don't even really know if someone injured him earlier or if it really was an earlier attempt womanofthehills Aug 2019 #29

I too do not see yet any evidence that his death was the result of a conspiracy to silence him, for emmaverybo Aug 2019 #33

I'm with you on this StarfishSaver Aug 2019 #37

Anyone who takes anything this admin says or does at face value is a fool BannonsLiver Aug 2019 #38

They are criminals. Claritie Pixie Aug 2019 #41

take it with a grain of salt stopdiggin Aug 2019 #43

You take it however you like BannonsLiver Aug 2019 #44

Do you beleive Epstein is dead? jberryhill Aug 2019 #53

Well done. cwydro Aug 2019 #69

What if the feds under Barr's direction get rid of the evidence. Claritie Pixie Aug 2019 #40

destroying evidence is generally a crime stopdiggin Aug 2019 #46

Of course it is but who would enforce that? Claritie Pixie Aug 2019 #47

it's getting people to do it in the first place stopdiggin Aug 2019 #49

I hope you're right about that. Claritie Pixie Aug 2019 #51

truth !! stopdiggin Aug 2019 #58

I'd say the most likely scenario is that the prison staff were paid to look the other way... backscatter712 Aug 2019 #54

I don't believe he killed himself. LisaL Aug 2019 #55

LOL, ok! nt USALiberal Aug 2019 #85

I disagree Sunsky Aug 2019 #56

The report is that Epstein was on suicide watch DeminPennswoods Aug 2019 #59

I agree Sunsky Aug 2019 #64

Not blaming the professionals at all DeminPennswoods Aug 2019 #70

To an extent Sunsky Aug 2019 #72

Apparently it wasn't taken lightly DeminPennswoods Aug 2019 #74

Fool yourself but pls don't try to fool the rest of us. brush Aug 2019 #61

It's also possible that it was neither suicide nor murder by powerful people FBaggins Aug 2019 #63

There is... cab67 Aug 2019 #67

As far as I can tell he was by himself in a cell. LisaL Aug 2019 #73

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2019 #86

I don't really trust things that happen in prison at face value JonLP24 Aug 2019 #76

Trump must be involved at some level Frances Aug 2019 #77

Right. He's in prison facing a lot of time and horrible Pisces Aug 2019 #78

Why I don't necessarily buy the notion that extremely wealthy, powerful men Crunchy Frog Aug 2019 #81

I agree, but it feeds the tinfoil hat crowd Kilgore Aug 2019 #83

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2019 #84

Remorse has nothing to do with it. cab67 Aug 2019 #88

Pushing a conspiracy theory seems to the in thing to do. Joe941 Aug 2019 #87

He might not be dead TSIAS Aug 2019 #89

I have an Idea... let's wait a few more days instead of 'guessing'. n/t JustFiveMoreMinutes Aug 2019 #90