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TexasBushwhacker

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4. Tariffs just make things unaffordable for the middle class
Thu Aug 30, 2012, 11:26 PM
Aug 2012

Tariffs won't bring jobs back. Even if they did, people want to buy their big screen TVs for $500. We cannot compete with 1 billion Chinese living in poverty who fight to work like slaves in factories that are heavily subsidized by the communist government. Obama asked Steve Jobs when would the jobs come back to the US. Steve was honest. He said, "They won't." I'm not bashing Apple. ALL electronics are made overseas, as well as most of our clothes and plenty of other goods. But we have infrastructure that needs rebuilding and maintaining. We have buildings and homes all over the country that could be retrofitted for energy efficiency. There is work to be done, but I'm not sure that we will ever be able to bring much manufacturing back.

Not enough to save the middle class. immoderate Aug 2012 #1
^^^^This ^^^^ limpyhobbler Aug 2012 #5
Yep. I feel like this idea is spreading at the speed of light. reformist2 Aug 2012 #7
I was going to say the speed of jello. limpyhobbler Aug 2012 #9
You ran the numbers... immoderate Aug 2012 #15
Well this is some futuristic stuff I guess. limpyhobbler Aug 2012 #17
My eight hour a week estimate is based on some economist's estimate immoderate Aug 2012 #20
Cloud atlas corpocracy. Nt abelenkpe Aug 2012 #27
Yup. Eight hours/week/person to produce all we need to consume. immoderate Aug 2012 #8
Let me check your math.... limpyhobbler Aug 2012 #13
This is built on the assumption that such wealth being generated is spread fairly evenly. Selatius Aug 2012 #18
So lets dislodge them already. limpyhobbler Aug 2012 #21
When you challenge people with a lot of money, it usually gets bloody and messy quickly. Selatius Aug 2012 #24
Got to work with, or (if necessary) build Unions. n/t Amonester Aug 2012 #25
The French figured out how to do a good dislodging a coupla hundred years back... kath Aug 2012 #28
In theory, yes Incitatus Aug 2012 #10
hmmm.... Yes the owners are absorbing all extra value from productivity gains into their profits. limpyhobbler Aug 2012 #14
It is hard to conceptualize a life where work isn't the primary motivator to waking up. Selatius Aug 2012 #16
I've always wanted to learn the banjo. limpyhobbler Aug 2012 #19
On the contrary--I believe the government can afford to buy each of us a KIA SOUL! nt Romulox Aug 2012 #2
There's plenty of wealth - it needs to be shared. reformist2 Aug 2012 #3
Tariffs just make things unaffordable for the middle class TexasBushwhacker Aug 2012 #4
Here's the response I expected earlier...I disagree completely-its quality vs quantity in more Boxerfan Aug 2012 #30
It sounds crazy, but we need to start planning for an economy where not everyone needs to work. reformist2 Aug 2012 #6
It's called "automation socialism." immoderate Aug 2012 #12
Apparently not so well developed. reformist2 Aug 2012 #22
What's missing? immoderate Aug 2012 #23
Here's the let's-send-jobs-to-foreign-countries "free-trade" agreements that have been signed > AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #11
It's very simple... WCGreen Aug 2012 #26
The 1%-ers have already decided the shape of the 'new economy' and have been putting the HiPointDem Aug 2012 #29
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