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Miles Archer

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Fri Sep 6, 2019, 03:10 PM Sep 2019

REALLY fucking STRUGGLING to understand why this isn't an impeachable offense... [View all]

Trump tries to force Ukraine to meddle in the 2020 election

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/is-trump-strong-arming-ukraines-new-president-for-political-gain/2019/09/05/4eb239b0-cffa-11e9-8c1c-7c8ee785b855_story.html

UKRAINE’S NEOPHYTE president, Volodymyr Zelensky, took a big step this week toward proving that he will be, as he promised, the most pro-reform president in Ukraine’s history. On Monday, he laid out a breathtakingly ambitious five-year plan including virtually every measure the International Monetary Fund and Western governments have urged on Ukraine in recent years, from land reform to the privatization of state companies to a cleansing of the judiciary.

That ought to be cause for celebration in Washington, where successive Democratic and Republican administrations have tried to draw Ukraine away from Vladi­mir Putin’s Russia and into the ranks of Western democracies, only to be frustrated by the fecklessness and corruption of the country’s political leaders. Yet Mr. Zelensky has so far failed to win the backing of President Trump. Not only has Mr. Trump refused to grant the Ukrainian leader a White House visit, but also he has suspended the delivery of $250 million in U.S. military aid to a country still fighting Russian aggression in its eastern provinces.

Some suspect Mr. Trump is once again catering to Mr. Putin, who is dedicated to undermining Ukrainian democracy and independence. But we’re reliably told that the president has a second and more venal agenda: He is attempting to force Mr. Zelensky to intervene in the 2020 U.S. presidential election by launching an investigation of the leading Democratic candidate, Joe Biden. Mr. Trump is not just soliciting Ukraine’s help with his presidential campaign; he is using U.S. military aid the country desperately needs in an attempt to extort it.

The strong-arming of Mr. Zelensky was openly reported to the New York Times last month by Mr. Trump’s personal lawyer, Rudolph W. Giuliani, who said he had met in Madrid with a close associate of the Ukrainian leader and urged that the new government restart an investigation of Mr. Biden and his son. Hunter Biden served on the board of a Ukrainian gas company, while Joe Biden, as vice president, urged the dismissal of Ukraine’s top prosecutor, who investigated the firm.
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Who says it isn't brooklynite Sep 2019 #1
Right. There is no shortage of impeachable offenses, only a shortage of will to impeach. (nt) thesquanderer Sep 2019 #11
Yep. Tipperary Sep 2019 #28
It doesnt matter if there is a conviction. tymorial Sep 2019 #21
Aye. Wish I could K&R a reply. n/t Mister Ed Sep 2019 #22
I'm gonna go ahead and K&R your reply. dchill Sep 2019 #23
Agree! mountain grammy Sep 2019 #24
Agreed and well said. c-rational Sep 2019 #25
Impeach for sure, but notinkansas Sep 2019 #30
If they impeach then the senate must hold a trial tymorial Sep 2019 #33
Do you honestly think there will be an election Iwasthere Sep 2019 #29
Because the Democratic leadership does not define it to be one jberryhill Sep 2019 #2
I don't get it. Anything he does seems beyond reproach! If a democrat had done just one or two RKP5637 Sep 2019 #3
The big difference is that if a Democratic prez had done any of this... JHB Sep 2019 #31
Why would anyone bother investigating Biden? leftstreet Sep 2019 #4
The usual reason: dig up or invent crap to make into headlines JHB Sep 2019 #32
Worse yet, FoxNewsSucks Sep 2019 #5
trump is out control, even by our Rule of Law Miigwech Sep 2019 #6
+1 ffr Sep 2019 #8
K&R onetexan Sep 2019 #34
This is why I see red for any conservative, republican, or Cult45 follower ffr Sep 2019 #7
We have to deal with outlaws now and I am addresing the struggling we are going through... Newest Reality Sep 2019 #9
Breathtaking Pepsidog Sep 2019 #10
As far as I'm concerned, every breath tRUMP, Barr, McConnel et al abqtommy Sep 2019 #12
Most days, I just start out and end up shaking my head, speechless. n/t Guilded Lilly Sep 2019 #13
Getting someone to work on behalf of one's election is a thing of value. Trump's using the Ukraine Karadeniz Sep 2019 #14
It's simple. While the president is not above the law, Donald Trump is. Kablooie Sep 2019 #15
because no one will do anything about him Skittles Sep 2019 #16
There are lots of impeachable offenses. There is simply no will to impeach tymorial Sep 2019 #17
Because the inevitable acquittal in the Senate would help him Recursion Sep 2019 #18
But if the House doesn't do something Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2019 #36
Is there any impeachable offense that they haven't committed yet? Initech Sep 2019 #19
It is. It's simply not a convictable offense. 11 Bravo Sep 2019 #20
I'm certain that will never happen... LanternWaste Sep 2019 #35
Aussies and Brits are free to determine their own linguistic usage. 11 Bravo Sep 2019 #38
Ditto ... and what we're afraid of? Oh, the KPN Sep 2019 #26
This and many of the Dotard's actions are impeachable and he should be impeached. I agree c-rational Sep 2019 #27
He has the power to do this, so he will. maxsolomon Sep 2019 #37
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