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100. Morlocks and Eloi
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 07:35 AM
Sep 2019

Absolutely. Who are the eaters and who the eaten in American politics? (That's a rhetorical question, of course. To stretch out the metaphor, Morlocks fight to win while the Eloi just cringe and try not to lose, try not to provoke the monsters rather than defeat them.)

You refer to beating him electorally to be non -action? tirebiter Sep 2019 #1
Your Honor, FiveGoodMen Sep 2019 #3
Republican response wryter2000 Sep 2019 #5
Well played! Brainfodder Sep 2019 #13
No kidding!!! calimary Sep 2019 #20
Seems like that is absolutely right. elocs Sep 2019 #27
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What do you think impeachment with no conviction will cost Trump? elocs Sep 2019 #69
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Morlocks and Eloi RVN VET71 Sep 2019 #100
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2019 #103
Impeachment, even if it fails is a historical record. One that can't be changed. Autumn Sep 2019 #107
Costs us the election? Are you kidding? The polls KPN Sep 2019 #108
Then we'll lose the election because impeachment isn't going to happen. elocs Sep 2019 #109
What is the point of giving Congress this power? AllyCat Sep 2019 #98
THANK YOU pangaia Sep 2019 #2
It won't make any difference to their voters wryter2000 Sep 2019 #4
They aren't actually informed by the media they meditate with? Brainfodder Sep 2019 #14
They've been convinced Democrats are evil wryter2000 Sep 2019 #26
Don't get me wrong that was a joke about my use of certain words. Brainfodder Sep 2019 #41
It won't make a difference to trump voters, but it will energize Democrats Poiuyt Sep 2019 #91
Exactly the point. Thank you. kacekwl Sep 2019 #93
Thank you! KPN Sep 2019 #6
Impeachment will help trump win re-election Gothmog Sep 2019 #7
He'll use the house refusing to Bettie Sep 2019 #9
+1 Martin Eden Sep 2019 #17
I think that an acquittal in the Senate is worse Gothmog Sep 2019 #22
Why? kentuck Sep 2019 #24
The charges were bogus.. mountain grammy Sep 2019 #30
Yes, that's why everyone thinks OJ was innocent. hughee99 Sep 2019 #31
+1 Bettie Sep 2019 #77
Really? What the hell do you think Trump would claim when the Senate fails to convict? elocs Sep 2019 #60
What if the House doesn't even send it over to the Senate? kentuck Sep 2019 #61
Exactly Bettie Sep 2019 #67
It's a lot harder to claim innocence Bettie Sep 2019 #65
They can continue to investigate but grasp onto reality: elocs Sep 2019 #72
You are probably right Bettie Sep 2019 #76
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2019 #66
"Because Trump and his supporters would view ..." Martin Eden Sep 2019 #15
You're playing to the large number of voters who dont constantly watch politics until the election oldsoftie Sep 2019 #102
When they start paying attention Martin Eden Sep 2019 #111
But again, the main thing they'll see is "not convicted". These people arent DUers. oldsoftie Sep 2019 #113
Trump has the only voice? Fox is the only news source? Martin Eden Sep 2019 #114
Nearly 60% polled 2 weeks ago are against impeachment. Still. oldsoftie Sep 2019 #115
The Nixon impeachment is more informative here Martin Eden Sep 2019 #117
Thank you! Bettie Sep 2019 #8
Yeah, that's why the House Republicans are retiring by the busload tirebiter Sep 2019 #10
It is the House's Constitutional Duty to Impeach AverageJoe Sep 2019 #11
removal during this term is not the goal Grasswire2 Sep 2019 #12
Problem is that when the Senate acquits, you cannot try him later for the same crimes. Tiggeroshii Sep 2019 #16
Impeachment is not a criminal trial Martin Eden Sep 2019 #18
trump cannot be tried while in office and when trump loses he will rely on a pardon Gothmog Sep 2019 #21
Nancy Pelosi Doesn't Have The Votes To Impeach Trump Gothmog Sep 2019 #19
+1 onenote Sep 2019 #43
+1 CrispyQ Sep 2019 #23
good post. bdamomma Sep 2019 #28
Can you imagine Trump tweeting about the impeachment every day? kentuck Sep 2019 #45
You call the argument "pathetically weak", but it's also true. elocs Sep 2019 #25
OF COURSE IT'S TRUE ProfessorPlum Sep 2019 #64
You'd crucify Trump for it in your fantasy. elocs Sep 2019 #73
It's obvious that it's not going to happen ProfessorPlum Sep 2019 #75
I believe that what you're describing is exactly the plan that's being carried out. CaptainTruth Sep 2019 #29
thank you !! stopdiggin Sep 2019 #34
The danger is just how much the Democratic party will be harmed if impeachment PufPuf23 Sep 2019 #32
Impeachment is on its way to becoming absolutely worthless Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2019 #33
impeachment as a rule stopdiggin Sep 2019 #39
Trump needs to be impeached regardless of the Senate standingtall Sep 2019 #35
There is another reason Democrats should step up and impeach now, maybe stretching it but.... LiberalLovinLug Sep 2019 #36
1000% Catch2.2 Sep 2019 #37
SHARPLY WORDED LETTERS have been sent out! What more could we want??? BamaRefugee Sep 2019 #38
DO THE RIGHT THING!!!! mnhtnbb Sep 2019 #40
Well aid, Professor. zentrum Sep 2019 #42
"The House won't impeach him" -- not a pathetically weak argument onenote Sep 2019 #44
Nonsense If Pelosi is nearly effective as we are told she can do the most basic thing standingtall Sep 2019 #47
How exactly can Pelosi get members to vote against their own interests? onenote Sep 2019 #48
We are not talking about election for speaker of the house standingtall Sep 2019 #51
Those members voted against Pelosi without fear that doing so would alienate the "base" onenote Sep 2019 #52
Most people don't care about speaker of the house standingtall Sep 2019 #56
There are virtually no examples of Pelosi calling for a vote that didn't get at least 225 Democrats onenote Sep 2019 #58
This message was self-deleted by its author standingtall Sep 2019 #62
I wonder if people woul be as eager to have Pelosi force Members to vote against their constituents' StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #79
Most Democrats want Trump impeached even in swing districts standingtall Sep 2019 #80
Do you have a link to the district-by-district polling numbers showing thisa StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #81
About 70 percent of Democrats support impeachment standingtall Sep 2019 #82
If you have no numbers, "betting it's a significant number" is meaningless. StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #83
If it is the right thing to do than yes I do think Democrats should vote standingtall Sep 2019 #86
What if they believe that what they're doing is the right thing? StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #89
At the end of the day somebody is right and somebody is wrong standingtall Sep 2019 #92
If we don't impeach Trump we probably shouldn't spend to much time complaining how repukes standingtall Sep 2019 #46
This. BlueWI Sep 2019 #106
This isn't about winning the next election. democrank Sep 2019 #49
The Senate has NEVER voted to remove an impeached president Alpeduez21 Sep 2019 #50
I've said this many times here. I hope those who disagree will take note Atticus Sep 2019 #53
K&R...👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 spanone Sep 2019 #54
Democrats Are In On It Frosty02 Sep 2019 #55
Plus, there are advantages to impeaching without removal. JaneQPublic Sep 2019 #57
Even if he lost the election in November, he could resign and let Pence become the President... kentuck Sep 2019 #59
I'm with you ProfessorPlum. Full speed ahead on the inquiry... Guilded Lilly Sep 2019 #63
have you ever heard of the "south"? How about the "mountain states"? oldlibdem Sep 2019 #70
That's the whole fucking point ProfessorPlum Sep 2019 #74
pay what "price" oldlibdem Sep 2019 #78
And The South's gonna do it again... czarjak Sep 2019 #84
no it's not ProfessorPlum Sep 2019 #88
Would they pay the price of not being re-elected treestar Sep 2019 #90
Excellent! Our Dems in Washington are being weak willed babies. Maraya1969 Sep 2019 #85
Great post! Pepsidog Sep 2019 #87
Speaker Pelosi said on late nite TV that she could, but has not read the Meullar reports redacted MasonDreams Sep 2019 #94
My guess? I suspect she is not pressing ahead due to the risk of Trump using it to rally his base cstanleytech Sep 2019 #97
Get a head count from Senators who agree or disagree to remove. Then let their constituency YOHABLO Sep 2019 #95
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2019 #105
While I certainly agree that pushing ahead with impeachment would put some Repugnants on the spot cstanleytech Sep 2019 #96
How many times does it have to be said that impeachment is already underway crazytown Sep 2019 #99
Why not just announce he resigned? bucolic_frolic Sep 2019 #101
" he's just not worth it" , House Speaker Nancy Pelosi . Impeachment is not going to happen ! stonecutter357 Sep 2019 #104
It's happening Qutzupalotl Sep 2019 #110
If impeachment wasn't made for Donald Trump, then it wasn't made for anyone. NCLefty Sep 2019 #112
K&R real Cannabis calm Sep 2019 #116
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