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StarfishSaver

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70. Equating her colleagues attempts to get impeachment right with Trump's criminality

Sun Sep 22, 2019, 02:58 AM

Sep 2019

isn't helpful.

She can get out in front on impeachment and try to push her colleagues without pushing them under the bus.

And if she really wants to influence them and not just throw red meat to her fans who already agree with her, this isn't the way to do it. Why not talk to her colleagues directly and they to convince them? If she's the skillful politician and leader she's portrayed as, she could be very persuasive and make a difference.

But yelling at them on Twitter and equating them with Trump is immature, counterprodictive showboating.

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...(The bigger scandal) is the Democratic Party's refusal to impeach him for it. - AOC wow [View all] sharedvalues Sep 2019 OP

it's becoming a bad joke now Skittles Sep 2019 #1

AOC IS the Fearless Girl EveHammond13 Sep 2019 #2

AOC For speaker. triron Sep 2019 #26

+1000! LiberalLovinLug Sep 2019 #196

Damn good idea! Magoo48 Sep 2019 #202

When she earns the trust and respect of her Democratic peers to lead them ehrnst Sep 2019 #298

She is right. Kid Berwyn Sep 2019 #166

Fearless and somewhat foolish. Chemisse Sep 2019 #261

You want wisdom and self-control? We've got that. colorado_ufo Sep 2019 #263

A fellow activist once asked me to help organize a protest march against a large company StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #267

Yes the Sad Truth montanacowboy Sep 2019 #3

+ a MILLION! FirstLight Sep 2019 #4

I agree 10000% diverdownjt Sep 2019 #275

DURec leftstreet Sep 2019 #5

she is right, you know rampartc Sep 2019 #6

Kick dalton99a Sep 2019 #7

No, the fact that the House hasn't impeached him yet ISN'T a bigger scandal than Trump's behavior StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #8

And there's that little issue with the ENTIRE Republican party that is propping him up and chowder66 Sep 2019 #9

She may be helping "rustle up some more votes for impeachment?" by twitting what she did. Perseus Sep 2019 #10

I doubt that AOC tweeting out attacks on the party is going to get any of her colleagues to support StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #11

The more sunlight focused on these crimes the more public outcry. Doremus Sep 2019 #28

Oh, please StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #36

No. democrank Sep 2019 #62

Yes, because social media hasn't had any influence on anything ever. Doremus Sep 2019 #135

Having influence isn't the same as being representative of the larger world StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #137

She's receiving death threats for "talking smack" on Twitter. SMC22307 Sep 2019 #141

The "right thing" is a matter of opinion StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #143

Impeachment was off the table for Dubya, thanks to Pelosi. SMC22307 Sep 2019 #154

You're absolutely right about Pelosi taking impeachment off the table for bush brutus smith Sep 2019 #161

The Democrats didn't lose the House in 2010 because.Bush wasn't impeached in 2007 StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #163

Oh, because you say so? brutus smith Sep 2019 #172

No. Because facts... StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #174

That's right and we lost the house mainly due to the ACA Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #217

So you're saying we lost the House because of the ACA but regained it because of the ACA? brutus smith Sep 2019 #292

Many voters were disgusted by that, SMC22307 Sep 2019 #184

Correct. brutus smith Sep 2019 #190

Maybe focus on why REPUBLICANS aren't doing the right thing. pangaia Sep 2019 #145

We know why Republicans aren't doing the right thing -- they're corrupt assholes. (n/t) SMC22307 Sep 2019 #149

They're corrupt assholes who are getting a complete pass while StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #150

LOL, that is truly lame rationalization. SMC22307 Sep 2019 #155

Exactly... never is it right to smack down our dem leadership Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #218

Of curse WE know that... it is enough of THEM(or is it THEY) who must be shown and convinced pangaia Sep 2019 #151

And the way to show and convince them... SMC22307 Sep 2019 #188

dems are reticent because certainot Sep 2019 #266

Talking smack and taking names in 2019 luxmatic Sep 2019 #156

You may be surprised to know I mostly agree with you StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #160

This! Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #216

Exactly. When Berke got Lewandowski to admit he has no issue... SMC22307 Sep 2019 #182

History may show that Badrun Khan will do the job as an effective Member of Congress. George II Sep 2019 #249

I seriously doubt that AOC has "cajones" and this term as it it is used japple Sep 2019 #268

She needs to be attacked. She is a part of the problem not the solution. We do not have enough wasupaloopa Sep 2019 #71

No, she is laying out truth ArcticFox Sep 2019 #121

Post removed Post removed Sep 2019 #148

I see people here murielm99 Sep 2019 #159

Why are her teammates down? Whose fault is that? (n/t) SMC22307 Sep 2019 #189

She is not the one "kicking her teammates when they are down" LiberalLovinLug Sep 2019 #198

I will be on the phone to Pelosi's office tomorrow morning with just that question. Not explaining c-rational Sep 2019 #122

Your time would be better spent getting on the phone to Members who don't yet support impeachment StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #130

Pelosi could be part of the solution if she wanted... TCJ70 Sep 2019 #131

OR StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #140

We're they elected to do what's politically expedient or uphold the constitution? TCJ70 Sep 2019 #153

And so it's okay with you that we loose the majority in the house, because that is what you are Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #219

Where is that guarantee? That's a fear-based excuse for inaction... TCJ70 Sep 2019 #244

Far from being a fear based excuse... this is the reality of the situation Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #264

If you want them to uphold the Constitution, you should want them to do it right StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #279

'Getting pushed too far to the left' is not what this is about... pbmus Sep 2019 #278

She's very calculating and persuasive. I wish she'd use her power to twist some arms to get calimary Sep 2019 #271

Twisting arms works when a vote is close StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #273

Then we need 100 new representatives... pbmus Sep 2019 #282

The Representatives represent the people in their districts StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #293

lulz. And how do you intend to do that? ehrnst Sep 2019 #300

Calling other members of Congress does not really help. They listen to only their constituents. c-rational Sep 2019 #165

The Speaker answers to her caucus, not the general public StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #167

A majority of the public believed Saddam had WMDs... SMC22307 Sep 2019 #191

They have not been "setting the public straight?" ehrnst Sep 2019 #304

Where are your blue links for Schumer? SMC22307 Sep 2019 #318

Goalpost moved from "they should be setting the public straight about the staggering corruption" ehrnst Sep 2019 #319

SO? Just sit down and shut up like a good girl huh? Ferrets are Cool Sep 2019 #205

Oh, yes. Because criticizing someone for attacking her colleagues is the same StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #206

It seems your definition of "attack" and mine are grossly different. nt Ferrets are Cool Sep 2019 #208

Perhaps StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #210

Well, you're wrong. brutus smith Sep 2019 #213

No, she is Not. Cha Sep 2019 #235

Oh, because you say so? ehrnst Sep 2019 #306

Yep brutus smith Sep 2019 #310

Nope, it isn't. She's right. You're wrong. ehrnst Sep 2019 #311

Ohhh, because you say so. Well excuuuuuuuuuse me brutus smith Sep 2019 #314

Yep ehrnst Sep 2019 #316

Right, instead we should all be saying Bettie Sep 2019 #209

No. Because that would be silly StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #211

Who is saying "they've done nothing wrong?" and is promoting "civility?" ehrnst Sep 2019 #312

I doubt her tweet has gotten one single more person to support impeachment StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #102

Your hatred for her isn't very subtle... AOC has "public tantrums" Arazi Sep 2019 #119

Assuming criticism is hatred is a lazy argument when you have nothing else StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #120

Your post speaks for itself. It's dripping with disdain Arazi Sep 2019 #164

Yeah, we all watched 'House of Cards" too. SMC22307 Sep 2019 #197

Thank you!! Amazing that sooo many here seem to think they have a better plan. Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #220

No, we are in the real world where the rubber meets the road.. pbmus Sep 2019 #281

+1 melman Sep 2019 #232

I don't see Newest Reality Sep 2019 #96

Equating her colleagues with Trump in a tweet isn't "informed criticism" StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #97

Informed criticism? mcar Sep 2019 #110

Thank you snowybirdie Sep 2019 #133

Those comments from Rep Ocasio-Cortez are not helpful at all, but not surprising still_one Sep 2019 #138

This! Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #215

Exactly what I've been feeling lately. Kablooie Sep 2019 #12

The FACTS aren't even OUT YET. Maybe she should join another party if she's so displeased. nt UniteFightBack Sep 2019 #13

What? They definitely are: TCJ70 Sep 2019 #124

Maybe our party shouldn't be so disappointing. Dr Hobbitstein Sep 2019 #181

I would say it's bigger than Party. kentuck Sep 2019 #14

Sadly, mine, too. dchill Sep 2019 #30

She is 100% right melman Sep 2019 #15

Tell it to Moscow Mitch. He's trump's firewall. PSPS Sep 2019 #16

She needs to be directing her firepower at him, squarely between the eyes. At least Nancy is trying JudyM Sep 2019 #176

Republicans certainly won't impeach him... yuiyoshida Sep 2019 #17

we have to stop making decisions based on what fascist repukes do Skittles Sep 2019 #242

There are still 30% of the population who yuiyoshida Sep 2019 #251

30% of the population will always be assholes Skittles Sep 2019 #253

Yes they did but I don't yuiyoshida Sep 2019 #257

"refusal" betsuni Sep 2019 #18

You do what's right and the votes will follow. Also: sharedvalues Sep 2019 #84

Understand the frustration, but this is counterproductive. PSPS Sep 2019 #19

Oh, this is leadership. sharedvalues Sep 2019 #85

No.. I don't think it's "leadership".. it's a vile Cha Sep 2019 #238

Leadership by tweet. (nt) ehrnst Sep 2019 #296

Who Skidmore Sep 2019 #326

And demonizes the press. (nt) ehrnst Sep 2019 #327

Against whom? (nt) ehrnst Sep 2019 #294

Excellent observation. The contempt for the party is palpable. NurseJackie Sep 2019 #328

Saying your party's worse than Trump is unwise, egregiously unwise. Prof.Higgins Sep 2019 #20

Worse in that they could do something about it if they chose. LiberalLovinLug Sep 2019 #200

+1000 brutus smith Sep 2019 #212

Pelosi seems to be waiting for the Courts aeromanKC Sep 2019 #21

It'd be helpful if she'd share her strategic plan with AOC, at least. JudyM Sep 2019 #177

Maybe she has and AOC doesn't like it or StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #179

Nancy has given the impression of being a good team leader. That impression is fading. JudyM Sep 2019 #183

She didn't walk away from anything StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #186

A patriot speaking truth to cowards nt Fiendish Thingy Sep 2019 #22

+ 1 billion FoxNewsSucks Sep 2019 #23

Clearly Nancy is using Dear Leader's repeated abuses of power as Capt. America Sep 2019 #24

eating our own. This can be harmful, maybe fatal. Hamlette Sep 2019 #25

Thats not what is happening rather AOC is simply building upon her platform to make her cstanleytech Sep 2019 #27

So she's undermining the party for her own electoral benefit? StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #37

I think rather it shows that our party is more open to differences of opinion which is cstanleytech Sep 2019 #45

She might be primaried from the left. JustABozoOnThisBus Sep 2019 #90

She won't be primaries on the left dansolo Sep 2019 #100

Oh ffs, that's a blatant right wing talking point. Please don't do that Arazi Sep 2019 #111

"Seeking the limelight". Dr Hobbitstein Sep 2019 #201

What proof do you have that she isn't focused on her constituents? SMC22307 Sep 2019 #246

She won the primary because her opponent stopped even trying to campaign ehrnst Sep 2019 #303

Yet Trump is eating the country while certain Dems are wringing their hands trying not to look bad. hadEnuf Sep 2019 #49

There's a reason this tweet has 48,000 likes in one hour melman Sep 2019 #29

The fact that her Twitter followers agree with her isn't really indicative of much StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #40

It's more 'the world' than this board is melman Sep 2019 #46

You mean like clowns getting pies smashed in their faces over and over again? hadEnuf Sep 2019 #50

Twitter ISN'T the world StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #51

Whatever melman Sep 2019 #53

I don't talk down impeachment. I explain law and process, apply logic and shoot down BS StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #57

You say you're talking law and process. Bluepinky Sep 2019 #126

The Constitution doesn't require impeachment. StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #136

Thank You!! Think they got it this time??? Just sayin' appreciate your efforts Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #222

No, I don't think so StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #223

I admire your patience. nt sheshe2 Sep 2019 #252

lol, no TwilightZone Sep 2019 #243

"This place is hilarious sometimes." melman Sep 2019 #247

"Twitterverse" FB, political crap on YouTube.. doesn't come close! Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #221

I talk with people most everyday G_j Sep 2019 #245

Indeed. (nt) ehrnst Sep 2019 #308

trump can go out of WH and start shooting the crowd AlexSFCA Sep 2019 #31

Boom! Tipperary Sep 2019 #32

She's giving Rethugs ammo for the echo chamber along with Faux. KY_EnviroGuy Sep 2019 #33

Right melman Sep 2019 #38

one might think that they are here already. Saying it right now. Like right here. In this thread. SlogginThroughIt Sep 2019 #41

It's bad. Good for her! sharedvalues Sep 2019 #86

Thank you StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #42

are there enough votes in the house to get impeachment ? JI7 Sep 2019 #34

The House is close xmas74 Sep 2019 #75

remember voter suppression and electronic voting machines and foreign interference? Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2019 #79

The House is a ways away dansolo Sep 2019 #98

lol, how is that a bigger scandal ? JI7 Sep 2019 #35

Ridiculously idiotic thing to say. SlogginThroughIt Sep 2019 #39

Post removed Post removed Sep 2019 #43

The Democratic Party are "spineless ass clowns"? betsuni Sep 2019 #56

Unreal. smh Cha Sep 2019 #239

What are the facts. What are the articles that are drawn up with evidence and with backing SlogginThroughIt Sep 2019 #44

This StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #52

+1 betsuni Sep 2019 #54

Yes! Speaker Pelosi is playing Trump like a cheap fiddle Baked Potato Sep 2019 #158

It's the Right Thing To Do, but it can also come back to hurt us. NCLefty Sep 2019 #47

Word Ligyron Sep 2019 #48

Incredible false equivalency, Grasshopper.... Hekate Sep 2019 #55

Or she could just pull aside one or more of her Democratic colleagues and try to persuade them StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #60

Tweeting is so much more satisfying than 'busy work' on congressional committees. ehrnst Sep 2019 #302

Stop Being So Scared!!! GO AOC!!! floppyboo Sep 2019 #58

Country over Party....an outrageous concept to some. democrank Sep 2019 #59

And so you're okay if madam speaker forces a vote and we end up loosing the majority? Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #224

Irony moment: What would Crowley do? nt floppyboo Sep 2019 #61

To clarify Constitutional procedure and basic logic CarlitosMMT Sep 2019 #63

Thank you. Excellent analysis sharedvalues Sep 2019 #88

You may want to do some research mcar Sep 2019 #113

Let me restate with more words to satisfy your intellect CarlitosMMT Sep 2019 #123

Well said! nt c-rational Sep 2019 #129

AOC is frustrated Aussie105 Sep 2019 #64

Exactly my thinking just before I posted below you. sprinkleeninow Sep 2019 #68

Lots of people are frustrated. But she's a Member of Congress StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #73

This tweet rattled me: sprinkleeninow Sep 2019 #65

I think she is both right and wrong at the same time. TidalWave46 Sep 2019 #66

Equating her colleagues attempts to get impeachment right with Trump's criminality StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #70

agree completely; some publicity IS bad publicity Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2019 #81

I agree with a lot of what you said. TidalWave46 Sep 2019 #93

Attacking her colleagues in this way is completely counterproductive StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #99

I disagree that it's impact is what you suggest. TidalWave46 Sep 2019 #112

Fox is already having a field day StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #117

Then her colleagues can skillfully reply that they need to ask AOC directly... SMC22307 Sep 2019 #255

Thanks for the encouraging post Rhiannon12866 Sep 2019 #76

What would Nancy have done in 1974? Duppers Sep 2019 #67

Didn't Democrats have the majority in both Congress and Senate in 1974? betsuni Sep 2019 #78

Not only that, but also... Mike Nelson Sep 2019 #82

+1 betsuni Sep 2019 #83

+1000 Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #226

In 1974 the house and the senate were held by the dems Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #225

And it STILL took nearly two years to build a case to get Nixon out of office StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #309

When there was a Dem House and Senate? ehrnst Sep 2019 #301

If Pelosi is not going to do anything TheDemsshouldhireme Sep 2019 #69

"If Pelosi's not going to do anyhing"? StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #72

I'm calling it. Aussie105 Sep 2019 #74

"The GOP's silence & refusal to act shouldn't be a surprise. Ours is." betsuni Sep 2019 #77

I guess this is... Mike Nelson Sep 2019 #80

Why does she and everyone else insist on blaming Democrats treestar Sep 2019 #87

Because it makes them feel hip and cool. betsuni Sep 2019 #89

This!! Being hip and cool... gets about zero done!! Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #227

Because no one wants them abdicating the power of an independent branch sharedvalues Sep 2019 #95

And also, we don't know yet what the Senate will do, not for sure ms liberty Sep 2019 #116

Because durablend Sep 2019 #105

Not an apt analogy StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #128

Ah, yes. The Deputy Scot Peterson strategy. egduj Sep 2019 #169

No. Not that at all StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #173

This! Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #228

They walk in on it, they have proof treestar Sep 2019 #259

Democrats have the power to impeach if they have the will. Trump has certainly earned it. TCJ70 Sep 2019 #127

You don't think the Senate acquitting him treestar Sep 2019 #258

I think it doesn't matter what he's going to say because... TCJ70 Sep 2019 #262

So grateful Rep. Ocasio-Cortez is there to speak for me RandiFan1290 Sep 2019 #91

I'll take Pelosi's judgement over AOC's grandstanding for her Twitter posse any day of the week. RelativelyJones Sep 2019 #92

+1! mcar Sep 2019 #115

Post removed Post removed Sep 2019 #144

Me too!! Madam speaker continues to play the long game... you know the one the gop plays Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #229

Amen and Hallelujah! Cha Sep 2019 #240

I suspect there is a lot more duforsure Sep 2019 #94

Oh my gosh!!! A voice of sanity... thank you!!! Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #230

Sorry AOC you're wrong this time n/t malaise Sep 2019 #101

I wish she was NOT right on this, but, she is. blm Sep 2019 #103

Right. Let's go along with blaming Democrats for Republican perfidy mcar Sep 2019 #104

AOC ought to know better bucolic_frolic Sep 2019 #106

I don't support the manner in which AOC expressed the message True Dough Sep 2019 #107

She's right. Gore1FL Sep 2019 #108

I just don't get it . . . Scubamatt Sep 2019 #109

The People gave control Sudsy Sep 2019 #114

I don't know if self-flagellation is productive at this time because...? kentuck Sep 2019 #118

Political cowards prismpalette Sep 2019 #125

What AOC lacks in experience and political savvy... SKKY Sep 2019 #132

That remains to be proven!! Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #231

Yes, she does tweet a whole lot doesn't she? (nt) ehrnst Sep 2019 #297

Trump would be found to be not guilty Locutusofborg Sep 2019 #134

go go AOC!! Celerity Sep 2019 #139

Agreed Bradical79 Sep 2019 #142

That decision is above my pay grade. orangecrush Sep 2019 #146

+1000... and it would be nice if others here would admit that as well Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #234

+1000. (nt) ehrnst Sep 2019 #295

I propose she also goes after REPUBLICANS!! pangaia Sep 2019 #147

But that wouldn't get nearly the attention, mentions and retweets StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #152

Post removed Post removed Sep 2019 #157

To AOC. Keep pressing what the voters ask for. brutus smith Sep 2019 #162

Then she'd be asking for not impeaching....those "the voters" mood so far AncientGeezer Sep 2019 #199

That's dangerous and factless hyperbole. defacto7 Sep 2019 #168

AOC wants the right thing but blames the wrong people. She can better help Americans get ancianita Sep 2019 #170

Strategic Hyperbole Baked Potato Sep 2019 #171

Gotta love her spunk! Frankly, it's exactly what we need in these times regardless of what KPN Sep 2019 #175

Bookmark this thread, you'll be glad you did. (no text) Duncan Grant Sep 2019 #178

Amen! There is much I have to say about our party in the House The Liberal Lion Sep 2019 #180

I wish she would keep her poison pen aimed at the real enemy Politicub Sep 2019 #185

Not close to the biggest scandal..name a trump admin official, beachbumbob Sep 2019 #187

Care to lay out those steps? Who in a court of law with no more physical evidence than we have is Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #236

Post removed Post removed Sep 2019 #192

AOC is right and Nancy is wrong. JoeOtterbein Sep 2019 #193

Checks and balances gone. Democracy gone. AllyCat Sep 2019 #194

There Is An Even Bigger Scandal Than That lefty2000 Sep 2019 #195

Oh good GOD! It may be *frustrating* for her... but it's NOT a "scandal". GMAFB!! NurseJackie Sep 2019 #203

As unhappy as the truth of the matter is, I must rec this. nt Ferrets are Cool Sep 2019 #204

She's not wrong Bettie Sep 2019 #207

It's Pelosi job to rally the "troops" . Can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. brutus smith Sep 2019 #214

And lose the house majority in the process... you okay with that?? Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #237

Prove to me we will lose the House majority. brutus smith Sep 2019 #250

What makes you think they are running scared? Ever stop to think they were the ones elected Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #265

The Speaker's job is to lead the "troops." ehrnst Sep 2019 #307

A true leader leads brutus smith Sep 2019 #313

Indeed, she does. And that's why Pelosi's been chosen by her peers so many times to do so. ehrnst Sep 2019 #315

Good for her! wendyb-NC Sep 2019 #233

That's a hilariously laughable assertion. TwilightZone Sep 2019 #241

hell yeah. he's only going to get worse with no accountability Lib 4 Life Sep 2019 #248

much worse nt Celerity Sep 2019 #323

I guess while she has been touring the country she's missed the hearings that have been held.... George II Sep 2019 #254

I like AOC but she is WRONG. Trump's criminal behavior is light years worse pnwmom Sep 2019 #256

I'm not sure the blue-red argument is going to stand much longer... pbmus Sep 2019 #284

And what would we accomplish by impeaching tomorrow, and then the Senate doing nothing? pnwmom Sep 2019 #285

The longer the wait, the more destruction of democratic norms... pbmus Sep 2019 #286

WE HAVE STARTED IMPEACHMENT HEARINGS. pnwmom Sep 2019 #287

Inquiry...I apologize...Sorry...please excuse my error pbmus Sep 2019 #288

Yes. And SS agrees we've begun impeachment hearings. Also, when I posted pnwmom Sep 2019 #289

Coercing a foreign government to get reelected is a far greater scandal than not impeaching. Chemisse Sep 2019 #260

This message was self-deleted by its author doc03 Sep 2019 #269

Argument about who gets held to what STANDARDS. Well put here EndGOPPropaganda Sep 2019 #270

+1 Arazi Sep 2019 #274

BS radical noodle Sep 2019 #272

I think AOC is right to keep pressure on, but on this, she is very wrong. Caliman73 Sep 2019 #276

x1000! peggysue2 Sep 2019 #280

Hang on grom, it's about to get big time tirebiter Sep 2019 #277

I understand her frustration, because I'm frustrated as well. John Fante Sep 2019 #283

... Scurrilous Sep 2019 #290

She's right. He continues to flout the law and they write sternly worded letters. Luciferous Sep 2019 #291

Are you going to be one of those democrats that will "stay home again" at election time? (nt) ehrnst Sep 2019 #299

No but that doesn't mean there aren't others out there who won't bother voting. Luciferous Sep 2019 #317

You said "stay home again" like in 2016. (nt) ehrnst Sep 2019 #320

Yeah, a lot of people didn't vote in 2016 because they didn't like Clinton. I didn't Luciferous Sep 2019 #321

Stay home "again?" ehrnst Sep 2019 #322

I'm not going to keep explaining this to you. And frankly, even if I did stay home Luciferous Sep 2019 #324

No one was saying you owe anyone anything. I just asked if you skipped voting in 2016 ehrnst Sep 2019 #325

You can't be one and do the other. NurseJackie Sep 2019 #305