Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
31. She tripped herself up before starting the bible verse stuff.
Sat Oct 12, 2019, 06:14 PM
Oct 2019

It seem (if I read your post correctly) like she said that God created LGBTQ people to "test" them and gave them the means to "fix" themselves. You could have asked several questions of her once she said that.

First question:
If God didn't really want LGBTQ people to exist as such, why would God create them to begin with? Clearly God intends for them to exist and be excepted as what they were created as.

Second Question:
If God created LGBTQ people and you want them gone, aren't you defying God's will?

What did Jesus say about homosexuality? Or abortion? guillaumeb Oct 2019 #1
They make up crap as they go along to suit their controlling ways!!! n/t RKP5637 Oct 2019 #12
Or about slavery? Or the death penalty? Kaleva Oct 2019 #18
Or about the rich? And paying taxes? guillaumeb Oct 2019 #43
Jesus did talk about the rich and paying taxes but he didn't about slavery, the death peanlty, Kaleva Oct 2019 #46
He did talk about the death penalty Major Nikon Oct 2019 #49
I find "get the fuck out of my house" to be apropos. Dr Hobbitstein Oct 2019 #2
Or just "get out"... Moostache Oct 2019 #3
Yeah Gelliebeans Oct 2019 #15
Yep, life is too short to deal with people like this! Fuck them! They are psychologically deranged RKP5637 Oct 2019 #21
In Genesis, the Bible says not to alter the Lord's word Baltimike Oct 2019 #62
Most of them probably never read it and would call it fake! They are idiots!!! n/t RKP5637 Oct 2019 #63
indeed. It's just important to point out that THEY are the affront to Xanity, not LGBTQ Baltimike Oct 2019 #64
Yep!!! n/t RKP5637 Oct 2019 #65
I think we waste our breath arguing with them. doc03 Oct 2019 #4
Ask them when they made their decision to be heterosexual. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2019 #5
Excellent question. I have to remember that one. nt Blue_true Oct 2019 #32
That's my response The Blue Flower Oct 2019 #52
This. n/t ms liberty Oct 2019 #36
Exactly. This. Dave Starsky Oct 2019 #81
If they really believe that then that should be able to tell... Thomas Hurt Oct 2019 #6
Good way to put it. n/t ms liberty Oct 2019 #37
But there are people who are attracted irisblue Oct 2019 #42
that what the reality is, not what these people believe. Thomas Hurt Oct 2019 #45
Yeah & thx for the reply, if the.parents are so upset over being gay irisblue Oct 2019 #47
Exactly. Ask her when she... 3catwoman3 Oct 2019 #7
That's what I usually ask, as well. GoCubsGo Oct 2019 #17
There are so many verses on the folly of judging others. Use some. If she wants to follow the word Doodley Oct 2019 #8
I've always found that those who are the most homophobic, are also the most internally conflicted unitedwethrive Oct 2019 #9
Definitely!!! That is seen over and over and over again. I find people that stick their noses into RKP5637 Oct 2019 #16
American Christianity is a far cry from the message redstateblues Oct 2019 #10
Religion in the US is a bunch of crap!!! n/t RKP5637 Oct 2019 #22
I like to say, "Who gives a shit if it's a choice?" Wounded Bear Oct 2019 #11
Exactly. And, why are some so concerned about GoCubsGo Oct 2019 #20
It's not. cwydro Oct 2019 #55
Have a Wellstone ruled Oct 2019 #13
There's nothing you can say toddwv Oct 2019 #14
I find them to be extremely weak people who have found something to cling to and like the RKP5637 Oct 2019 #25
Discretion elleng Oct 2019 #19
If I'm with a relative or friend, we don't spend time watching the news. Kaleva Oct 2019 #23
Nothing. XRubicon Oct 2019 #24
To the great responses above, I would ask ... 'exactly where does God make it clear that being gay mr_lebowski Oct 2019 #26
Best rendition of this concept ever: Aristus Oct 2019 #41
the "ignorant tightass club" - loved that! FM123 Oct 2019 #76
Actually it's not clear from what I understand ismnotwasm Oct 2019 #27
I like to tell the tale of the year I chose my sexual orientation. It goes like this: Garrett78 Oct 2019 #28
And after you've asked them when they chose to be heterosexual, The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2019 #29
My mother's cousin Paul was gay, as was another cousin, plus the nephew of that cousin, & my cousin. phylny Oct 2019 #59
This message was self-deleted by its author Flaleftist Oct 2019 #30
She tripped herself up before starting the bible verse stuff. Blue_true Oct 2019 #31
Tell 'em, "You're right, you know. They're just doing it to get you upset." Mister Ed Oct 2019 #33
Back when I was a cute young Jewish man in 1970's Los Angeles, MurrayDelph Oct 2019 #34
I'd tell them that i leave that decision up to the LORD! not our concern! bluestarone Oct 2019 #35
Judge not, least you be judged... SWBTATTReg Oct 2019 #38
They believe the Bible was written by men... StarryNite Oct 2019 #39
I always then ask when they chose to be straight. Johnny2X2X Oct 2019 #40
Perhaps you can show her the Sharon Underwood letter Martin Eden Oct 2019 #44
Heard this a lot... Duppers Oct 2019 #48
I never implied atheists don't do good words or practice kindness. rustysgurl Oct 2019 #51
If god is the creator of ALL things lunatica Oct 2019 #50
Give up trying to reason with her vlyons Oct 2019 #53
Ask them at what age The Wizard Oct 2019 #54
Read what Hebrews says about legalists. She is clearly flat wrong. onecaliberal Oct 2019 #56
What about her child who she loved Skidmore Oct 2019 #57
I don't know what to tell you The Genealogist Oct 2019 #58
He's gay because GOD made him that way, and the 10 C's say not to lie, so....nt Baltimike Oct 2019 #60
If she really believes the BS, tell her gays and lesbians were created by God and, therefore, Vinca Oct 2019 #61
"(I know, I was dancing on the minefield). " Demovictory9 Oct 2019 #66
I'd tell them that if it's a choice ... dawg Oct 2019 #67
Well if you want to get technical ... Odoreida Oct 2019 #68
You have the option to tell her mnhtnbb Oct 2019 #69
I have no patience for people who "take a hard stance against anything God says is wrong." DFW Oct 2019 #70
I would probably ask them moondust Oct 2019 #71
Imo, the question should not be what the Bible says about homosexuality. It s/b why anyone cares? Sophia_Of_PlanetX Oct 2019 #72
I thought Jesus died for EVERYONE'S sins TexasBushwhacker Oct 2019 #73
The only "choice" involved here is that Christianists CHOOSE to remain ignorant. VOX Oct 2019 #74
Late to the convo, but try this: "when did you decide to be left/right handed?" LanternWaste Oct 2019 #75
Nothing HopeAgain Oct 2019 #77
My first reaction snowybirdie Oct 2019 #78
What if it was a choice? Cracklin Charlie Oct 2019 #79
I just tell them I'm a "red letter Christian". SharonAnn Oct 2019 #80
My general attitude is, so what if it *is* a choice? Proud Liberal Dem Oct 2019 #82
You can't argue rationally with irrationality... JCMach1 Oct 2019 #83
Latest Discussions»General Discussion»What to say to religious ...»Reply #31