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This Presidency Has Exposed My White Christian Friends/ Editorial by John Pavlovitz [View all] Tom Yossarian Joad Nov 2019 OP

Nailed it: The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2019 #1

He put my feelings into words far better than I could have. Tom Yossarian Joad Nov 2019 #2

The sense of betrayal is overwhelming. patphil Nov 2019 #62

Don't you dare blame Satan Cartaphelius Nov 2019 #66

many of your christian friends sold out to an antichrist for politiical ends and expediency Thomas Hurt Nov 2019 #3

And certain sects of these "Christians" even longer ago sold out to fierywoman Nov 2019 #9

Post removed Post removed Nov 2019 #93

K&R Thanks for posting. alwaysinasnit Nov 2019 #4

JP is also on Facebook. I like his stuff. GoneOffShore Nov 2019 #5

Yea for sure! bluestarone Nov 2019 #6

The truth was always there for everyone to see if they cared to lunatica Nov 2019 #7

Hear, hear!! Missn-Hitch Nov 2019 #20

Agreed. The response to Obama's election and re-election should have been clue enough. Garrett78 Nov 2019 #44

You are exactly right. Blue_true Nov 2019 #45

I used to be a waitress for many years lunatica Nov 2019 #50

Due to your experience, you likely have great insight into people's character Blue_true Nov 2019 #57

It's a valuable lesson lunatica Nov 2019 #61

You should feel great about using the Heimlich to save someone's life. Bluepinky Nov 2019 #86

And some of us... ArchTeryx Nov 2019 #68

My grandfather told me Fortinbras Armstrong Nov 2019 #84

Always liked the phrase: GeoWilliam750 Nov 2019 #58

I feel blessedly isolated from those southern/mid-western magats erronis Nov 2019 #8

I would not be so smug if I were you. Blue_true Nov 2019 #46

Points well taken. And I know that the racial/tribal bigotry exists everywhere. erronis Nov 2019 #48

Western Europe embraced those cultures because there was not a large Blue_true Nov 2019 #53

I agree with your assessment 2naSalit Nov 2019 #67

I used to live in the Portland, Oregon Berlin Expat Nov 2019 #69

Portland is the whitest city in America. Lecturing about racial issues appalachiablue Nov 2019 #73

Thanks for making this point about the South. greymattermom Nov 2019 #91

It is easy for people that don't live in the South to bash it. Blue_true Nov 2019 #95

Do you think our species will ever mature to the extent that we openly lay the blame stopbush Nov 2019 #10

Thank you for posting! Cheers. Missn-Hitch Nov 2019 #21

I put the blame more on defacto7 Nov 2019 #23

I would have to lay the blame at the foot of all major Tom Yossarian Joad Nov 2019 #25

It is not just Christianity. Blue_true Nov 2019 #47

The problem is endemic to humanity Loki Liesmith Nov 2019 #79

Good point. A tendency toward selection and tribalism did cause some to survive while others went Blue_true Nov 2019 #98

I don't think we can lay the blame on Christianity, but we should recognize that religion is a tool. Garrett78 Nov 2019 #51

Religion and politics use each other to gain power and wealth. keithbvadu2 Nov 2019 #63

it isn't Christianity. It is bigger than that. KentuckyWoman Nov 2019 #89

Stunning reality. defacto7 Nov 2019 #11

And I am angry. Thanks for posting. Cheers. Missn-Hitch Nov 2019 #22

I'm shocked! Major Nikon Nov 2019 #12

Must read malaise Nov 2019 #13

If you think it's bad to see the evil unveiled in your fellow worshipers, imagine it's your family. Girard442 Nov 2019 #14

Hear, hear!! Missn-Hitch Nov 2019 #18

I have a dinner tomorrow with them. Lars39 Nov 2019 #38

Maybe the scales have fallen from their eyes. Girard442 Nov 2019 #39

I'm sure not holding my breath. Lars39 Nov 2019 #43

I congratulate my Son True Blue American Nov 2019 #72

I never bring it up. Lars39 Nov 2019 #75

I feel for you. True Blue American Nov 2019 #76

Thank you! Lars39 Nov 2019 #77

I live in a red state too True Blue American Nov 2019 #80

Maybe she's figured out by now that Obamacare and ACA are the same thing. Lars39 Nov 2019 #90

No, she would repeat the same True Blue American Nov 2019 #94

Yeah, sometimes best to just move on, if possible. Lars39 Nov 2019 #99

Thats how i've kept some friends. Theres plenty of other things to bitch about. oldsoftie Nov 2019 #97

K&R Scurrilous Nov 2019 #15

Riddle me this: world wide wally Nov 2019 #16

Racism. Blue_true Nov 2019 #49

Have a nephew snowybirdie Nov 2019 #17

This happened to my brother & his wife, religion got its claws into them and they turned into yaesu Nov 2019 #26

Now let's focus on the so-called moderates of religion. Missn-Hitch Nov 2019 #19

He has definitely exposed the religious right's true agenda. Initech Nov 2019 #24

They've been exposed as long as I can remember. See: "moral majority" in the 80s. NCLefty Nov 2019 #30

But Chump is pandering to the radical end times apocalypse worshipping side of it. Initech Nov 2019 #33

Brilliant. matt819 Nov 2019 #27

send this to Dennis Praeger SleeplessinSoCal Nov 2019 #28

Try Dennis Prager. Bluepinky Nov 2019 #88

I wish people would call out Fox "news" for all the enabling it has done of hate speech. Scotch-Irish Nov 2019 #29

From your keyboard to... Tom Yossarian Joad Nov 2019 #31

If only we could all start over and methodically remove these people from our lives. Baitball Blogger Nov 2019 #32

Excellent post and also Velveteen Ocelot. I am very discouraged to witness the unmasking. Evolve Dammit Nov 2019 #34

Maybe we'll hear less about EEEEvangelicals democrank Nov 2019 #35

Trump devout Christian - We should practice Christianity like Trump? keithbvadu2 Nov 2019 #65

Wow..... Upthevibe Nov 2019 #36

Good for him. Tom Yossarian Joad Nov 2019 #37

It's a new kind of Christianity. Anyone unaware should watch The Family. redqueen Nov 2019 #40

That was truly chilling. Agreed. Tom Yossarian Joad Nov 2019 #42

To be honest, Barack Obama exposed them first. New Breed Leader Nov 2019 #41

You know ,that is quite true, but True Blue American Nov 2019 #71

Sounds like this writer... UncleTomsEvilBrother Nov 2019 #52

Read It Again UTEB ProfessorGAC Nov 2019 #85

Well worth clicking the link to read his whole essay. yardwork Nov 2019 #54

The Hypocrisy of Pseudo-Christianity. roamer65 Nov 2019 #55

The night Obama was elected AwakeAtLast Nov 2019 #56

This whole embrace of the anti christ mf 45 by these evangelicals have really turned me off kimbutgar Nov 2019 #59

Yup. Same here LiberalLovinLug Nov 2019 #100

+1 kimbutgar Nov 2019 #101

What John Pavlovitz says here has been the thing that has really broken my heart. madaboutharry Nov 2019 #60

I was so oblivious Olafjoy Nov 2019 #64

I truly thought that we were getting better Aussie105 Nov 2019 #70

Moonie Church True Blue American Nov 2019 #74

Frauds. Even their Savior would be pissed. democratisphere Nov 2019 #78

They have replaced Christ with Trump. dchill Nov 2019 #81

I must admit I am surprised too. UCmeNdc Nov 2019 #82

K&R ck4829 Nov 2019 #83

Some members of my "Christian" family hate/dislike whole swaths of people CousinIT Nov 2019 #87

Undoubtedly colsohlibgal Nov 2019 #92

Obama's election served a similar function. He brought all the racists out into the open. Nitram Nov 2019 #96