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Blue_true

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32. Generally, effective Threshold Limit Values for chemicals cover almost the exact wording you just

Mon Dec 9, 2019, 08:29 PM

Dec 2019

gave. I view the other poster as an expert level person who is going a little too deep into the weeds. TLV wording should be all inclusive in regards to all side effects and easy for a lay level person to understand. The other poster seem to be getting into the investigative and lab level terminology that leads to the setting of effective TLVs for chemicals. I don't think that the poster is trying to be disengenuous or in any way argumentative, but the posts as written seem to miss the point, IMO.

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Please go see the movie "Dark Waters" and take a neighbor [View all] Ohioboy Dec 2019 OP

It looks great. Mike 03 Dec 2019 #1

I have wanted to see it since the summer, I love Mark Ruffalo dewsgirl Dec 2019 #2

Great acting & activism; Ruffalo helped get this movie made. Reviews: appalachiablue Dec 2019 #13

Thank you, I'm going to watch it as soon as I can. dewsgirl Dec 2019 #14

I went last night. Such an excellent movie. As soon as I started dewsgirl Dec 2019 #46

'Foxcatcher' sounds interesting from their Wiki and John DuPont appalachiablue Dec 2019 #47

He was nuts, I haven't watched since it came out. Powerhouse dewsgirl Dec 2019 #48

"This true story is proof that self- regulation will never work when it comes to corporations." llmart Dec 2019 #3

Bilott was able to prove that DuPont knew the stuff they were dumping was toxic, Ohioboy Dec 2019 #5

You just have to look at TPC's plant explosion last week to understand that it continues. Dustlawyer Dec 2019 #6

I saw it. Was great. Horribly depressing too. Funtatlaguy Dec 2019 #4

Job creators are being punished for success by jealous liberals IronLionZion Dec 2019 #7

Our local newspaper in Sarasota did a Ghost of Tom Joad Dec 2019 #8

Florida's problems with the Everglades' pollution makes this movie of particular interest. ancianita Dec 2019 #9

Cost transfer Johnny2X2X Dec 2019 #10

Infuriating shadowmayor Dec 2019 #11

Great movie!!! Catch2.2 Dec 2019 #12

K&R smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #15

BBC also did a documentary which was also devastating IcyPeas Dec 2019 #16

Looks good, important. Tx for posting. appalachiablue Dec 2019 #18

I want to see it but... lame54 Dec 2019 #17

see the BBC post I just posted above, its a documentary IcyPeas Dec 2019 #19

I have worked almost exclusively with these compounds Drahthaardogs Dec 2019 #20

DuPont found them to be toxic in their own studies Ohioboy Dec 2019 #21

This message was self-deleted by its author Drahthaardogs Dec 2019 #22

It was more than just birth defects Ohioboy Dec 2019 #23

Not sure of what your definition of "toxic" is Ohioboy Dec 2019 #24

This message was self-deleted by its author Drahthaardogs Dec 2019 #25

What is the technical definition of toxicity? Ohioboy Dec 2019 #27

This message was self-deleted by its author Drahthaardogs Dec 2019 #28

Doesn't your definition of toxic cover at least 4 of the other measures you have mentioned? Ohioboy Dec 2019 #29

Generally, effective Threshold Limit Values for chemicals cover almost the exact wording you just Blue_true Dec 2019 #32

I was suspecting that Ohioboy Dec 2019 #33

There has been a number of cases where chemicals were not considered to be toxic, but Blue_true Dec 2019 #38

This message was self-deleted by its author Drahthaardogs Dec 2019 #34

Sorry, didn't mean to make you mad Ohioboy Dec 2019 #36

This message was self-deleted by its author Drahthaardogs Dec 2019 #37

Thank you for your response Ohioboy Dec 2019 #39

The problem may be in how you as an expert defines toxic, and how Blue_true Dec 2019 #40

Yes, you're right. Drahthaardogs Dec 2019 #42

Well, Webster doesn't do a whole lot to clear up any confusion Ohioboy Dec 2019 #44

Well, technically ANY adverse effect could be toxic Drahthaardogs Dec 2019 #45

Have TLV been set for the chemicals, or are those being developed? Blue_true Dec 2019 #30

No, the EPA has developed a Lifetime Health Advisory Drahthaardogs Dec 2019 #35

K&R Kurt V. Dec 2019 #26

"Self Regulation does NOT WORK"..CORRECT.... please read the history of a book called "The Jungle" Stuart G Dec 2019 #31

Thanks for this. I tried to get a thread rolling but it didn't catch. Yes, the... LAS14 Dec 2019 #41

Looks a bit like A Civil Action, Ilsa Dec 2019 #43