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Arthur_Frain

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4. Yeah, I wish we'd stop the rabid speculation.

Sat Dec 14, 2019, 10:58 AM

Dec 2019

Too many goddamn letdowns, I don’t need the buildup for this. There may be something actionable in there, and there very well may be nothing but a tired, frightened, empty shell of an old man trying desperately to make himself out to be the success that has always really eluded him.

I don’t know.

But until the court rules that we’d get to see them people claiming they “Know” that his taxes will prove he’s dirty irritates me about as much as when folks (especially politicians) say shit like “The vast majority of people........”. I don’t really give a shit what they say after that, because usually the divide is more like 50-50 or 49-51. And thats a vast majority.

Make a statement of fact that you can verify, or identify your statement as your subjective opinion, and then wait for the reveal.

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My guess: Trump's taxes don't reveal impeachable crimes, but there's something in there bad enough [View all] StarfishSaver Dec 2019 OP

Money laundering for the Russians, who own his debt n/t splat Dec 2019 #1

Do you think that's enough to humiliate him and drive away the base? StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #2

Money laundering wouldn't show up as such in his tax returns, The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2019 #12

That's what I think too -- His returns will show he's not as successful as he wants us to believe. Hoyt Dec 2019 #27

The average person probably doesn't understand what "money laundering" means. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Dec 2019 #30

How does that show up in his taxes? Merlot Dec 2019 #10

One way StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #17

Humiliate yes. Drive away base never GusBob Dec 2019 #3

If he's humiliated, that will drive them away StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #18

Yeah, I wish we'd stop the rabid speculation. Arthur_Frain Dec 2019 #4

3 potential bombshells: Fiendish Thingy Dec 2019 #5

A special kind of 'debt' empedocles Dec 2019 #21

I think it will be exactly what Michael Cohen said he was doing - The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2019 #6

Remember how he said during the 2016 debates Ohiogal Dec 2019 #11

+100000 Pachamama Dec 2019 #14

Then why has NY not prosecuted him? former9thward Dec 2019 #32

No but it'll show he had a tax rate of under 14% and committed fraud with the IRS. Ask Al Capone ... marble falls Dec 2019 #7

OK, since the IRS has had his taxes for 50 years now former9thward Dec 2019 #33

I doubt we will ever find out mucifer Dec 2019 #8

Just hasn't been paid due attention and pressure before. Nows not the time to let up on him. marble falls Dec 2019 #36

sets up debt, liability, asset structure as well as reveal what he has claimed to have given in beachbumbob Dec 2019 #9

Are they truly being audited by the IRS? forthemiddle Dec 2019 #13

I don't think an audit would reveal fraud or crimes StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #16

1. Garden variety tax fraud. crickets Dec 2019 #15

I think that if we see his taxes, it will be proof that...Donald Trump paid Zero in Income Taxes... Stuart G Dec 2019 #19

could be minority ownership in a private abortion clinic gopiscrap Dec 2019 #20

I don't think so, either. Most of what's in them took place before he became president, so... George II Dec 2019 #22

Sadly, I don't think anything would drive his base away from him. CaptainTruth Dec 2019 #23

Only if the tax returns prove he's broke. They hate the poor n/t leftstreet Dec 2019 #25

Unless he's getting rent from an abortion provider ... n/t Odoreida Dec 2019 #24

Michael Cohen said Trump understates his income for taxes... dawg day Dec 2019 #26

Two possibilities matt819 Dec 2019 #28

I am a corporate attorney and I suspect that these returns will show many interesting things Gothmog Dec 2019 #29

IOW, he's scared of being shown to be a phoney Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2019 #35

Always nice to get an informed opinion. Thanks, Gothmog. Hekate Dec 2019 #37

Maddow showed evidence of bank and insurance fraud when dealing with Deutche Bank. He overstated uponit7771 Dec 2019 #31

My two cents... Generic Brad Dec 2019 #34

I think he's embarrassed as to the source of his money jmowreader Dec 2019 #38