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Straw Man

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122. Not exactly. The seven-round law is still on the books.
Wed Jan 22, 2020, 03:38 AM
Jan 2020

There was one ruling against it by one judge, which was subsequently upheld by another. However, the overall picture is still murky:

https://www.timesunion.com/local/article/State-Police-guide-amended-to-ignore-seven-round-5355959.php

It's likely that any arrest would end up in a dismissal of charges, but the arrest itself would be sufficient in some jurisdictions to merit suspension or revocation of one's pistol permit.

Then he should be removed from office BuffaloJackalope Jan 2020 #1
How? nt/ dware Jan 2020 #50
Isn't malfeasance a crime in VA? BuffaloJackalope Jan 2020 #90
Sheriffs have a wide latitude on what to spend their resources on, dware Jan 2020 #95
Do you agree that officers of the law who refuse to enforce public safety laws should be removed? BuffaloJackalope Jan 2020 #99
I do agree, dware Jan 2020 #101
What's your solution? BuffaloJackalope Jan 2020 #104
Where in the world did you get the idea that I'm an advocate for dware Jan 2020 #105
Right. You just chime in with pro-gun nut talking points at every opportunity. BuffaloJackalope Jan 2020 #108
But I didn't say nothing can be done, dware Jan 2020 #109
But nothing that the NRA doesn't advocate BuffaloJackalope Jan 2020 #110
At this point it seems that all you want to do is argue, dware Jan 2020 #111
You replied to me, pal. BuffaloJackalope Jan 2020 #114
I'm not bugging out, dware Jan 2020 #116
You lost, so you're bugging out. BuffaloJackalope Jan 2020 #117
If that's what you want to believe, dware Jan 2020 #119
You can prove me wrong by offering an actual solution, BuffaloJackalope Jan 2020 #125
just wait til the first gunshot victim of that county gets a lawyer.... samnsara Jan 2020 #126
This! The lawsuits should be staggering. SlogginThroughIt Jan 2020 #136
Well, if he wasn't throwing all of his resources trying to apprehend DWB. madinmaryland Jan 2020 #112
Is that what he's doing? dware Jan 2020 #113
What does DWB stand for? WVJoe Jan 2020 #134
Driving while black, dware Jan 2020 #135
Sheriffs are politicians. I'm guessing his is a rural county. Hassler Jan 2020 #2
It is, and a wingnut one obamanut2012 Jan 2020 #53
It is a wingnut place, and one of the most beautiful places on Earth. LastDemocratInSC Jan 2020 #87
Is he a Supreme Court justice in his spare time? lpbk2713 Jan 2020 #3
Then why would anyone have to take an oath dumbcat Jan 2020 #6
He is law enforcement XRubicon Jan 2020 #16
There is discretion at almost every level of justice aikoaiko Jan 2020 #32
Interesting XRubicon Jan 2020 #33
too many wrong choices can lead to unemployment aikoaiko Jan 2020 #35
How will he know what the law means? dumbcat Jan 2020 #37
lol XRubicon Jan 2020 #38
No that's not the way the law works treestar Jan 2020 #124
It's not doing what you want dumbcat Jan 2020 #138
If the question was never decided treestar Jan 2020 #141
Lots of things are not decided dumbcat Jan 2020 #143
Some court will treestar Jan 2020 #144
He should be fired immediately. onecaliberal Jan 2020 #4
ABSOLUTELY!! bluestarone Jan 2020 #5
How does one immediately fire an elected official? Kaleva Jan 2020 #9
So what do you think should happen? Kingofalldems Jan 2020 #10
One can try and educate the voters in that county so they elect a sheriff who believes in ... Kaleva Jan 2020 #15
I would suggest taking away all state funding for his office safeinOhio Jan 2020 #19
Holy crap! No one can. onecaliberal Jan 2020 #12
He can be recalled in a special election or defeated in the next election Kaleva Jan 2020 #17
He's a four term incumbent who won reelection as an indpendent by less than 100 votes onenote Jan 2020 #20
So it's likely his replacement would hold the same views as he does. Kaleva Jan 2020 #22
I think its certain. onenote Jan 2020 #27
Regardless, he needs to be out Blue_Tires Jan 2020 #72
So, unless he's voted out of office, unlikely, dware Jan 2020 #73
When I figure it out, I'll tell you Blue_Tires Jan 2020 #93
Interesting XRubicon Jan 2020 #21
Looks like the Florida Senate placed the sheriff on suspension. Kaleva Jan 2020 #23
Thank goodness. onecaliberal Jan 2020 #25
The governor removed him by executive order XRubicon Jan 2020 #28
Florida Constitution allows it. Kaleva Jan 2020 #31
I looked but couldn't find anything that clearly addressed the question onenote Jan 2020 #58
Probably only for malfeasance or criminal acts, dware Jan 2020 #60
The only way he can be fired is if he's voted out. nt dware Jan 2020 #51
He can't be fired, he is elected obamanut2012 Jan 2020 #54
This F.I.* is obviously a constitutional expert. COLGATE4 Jan 2020 #7
then he needs fired demtenjeep Jan 2020 #8
You mean voted out next election jimfields33 Jan 2020 #11
I thought the legislature was just CONTEMPLATING new laws. maxsolomon Jan 2020 #13
Q: When do progressives become law-and-order martinets? Straw Man Jan 2020 #14
The 7 round provision of the NY SAFE Act was struck down in 2013. n/t sl8 Jan 2020 #34
Not exactly. The seven-round law is still on the books. Straw Man Jan 2020 #122
Interesting, thanks. It gets even murkier, though: sl8 Jan 2020 #123
Yes. it does. Straw Man Jan 2020 #145
LOCK HIM UP. spanone Jan 2020 #18
For???? AncientGeezer Jan 2020 #91
Another republican law enforcement official refusing to enforce the law, MerryBlooms Jan 2020 #24
It was pointed out in another post that the Sheriff ran as an Independent. Kaleva Jan 2020 #42
You really think he's not a republican? MerryBlooms Jan 2020 #46
As an Independent, he's been running against, and defeating, Repubs since 2007 Kaleva Jan 2020 #47
No, you're right, my bad. I apologize. Not enforcing common sense gun laws... MerryBlooms Jan 2020 #77
He doesn't see them(the proposed laws) as you do....the people that elected him.... AncientGeezer Jan 2020 #92
I had assumed he was a Repub also until I read the post saying he ran as an independent. Kaleva Jan 2020 #97
These officials at every level refusing MerryBlooms Jan 2020 #118
So if someone gets killed by a gun? bluestarone Jan 2020 #26
Would sheriffs who uphold the law also get sued when someone is killed by a gun? Kaleva Jan 2020 #44
Well i figure his own statement hangs him! bluestarone Jan 2020 #45
Not the sheriff, the county. SlogginThroughIt Jan 2020 #137
county sheriffs have more real power than federal officials. Kurt V. Jan 2020 #29
our states AG ( I belive thats who it was) said if Sheriff doesnt enforce and someone gets shot.. samnsara Jan 2020 #30
So this LEO won't enforce certain LAWS because he disagrees with those laws. VOX Jan 2020 #36
Being limited to purchasing one hand gun a month? Generic Brad Jan 2020 #39
You go to a gun show ScratchCat Jan 2020 #52
Another scenario atreides1 Jan 2020 #83
It is against the law to WVJoe Jan 2020 #88
Both laws that require evidence of intent and offer a defense of plausible deniability ... marble falls Jan 2020 #94
Well I guess you won't be needing that badge anymore 2naSalit Jan 2020 #40
He cannot "retire from the force" -- he is elected obamanut2012 Jan 2020 #56
Retirement mean many things... 2naSalit Jan 2020 #66
That would be karmic justice. Nt raccoon Jan 2020 #61
If he refuses to enforce the laws, guillaumeb Jan 2020 #41
That would require him losing an election and his voters agree with him AncientGeezer Jan 2020 #48
He very well might know his voters. eom guillaumeb Jan 2020 #96
Since when is constitutional interpretation part of a sheriff's job description? ooky Jan 2020 #43
"Another right wing asshole abusing his office." FiveGoodMen Jan 2020 #102
And the South rose again again again again again again again again again... NCLefty Jan 2020 #49
Fire the sumbitch Blues Heron Jan 2020 #55
He's elected (as has been pointed out several times above) onenote Jan 2020 #57
As has been pointed time and time again, dware Jan 2020 #59
he can be fired! Blues Heron Jan 2020 #65
The only way he can be fired is if he's voted out of office dware Jan 2020 #67
They should fire him yesterday Blues Heron Jan 2020 #74
Wonder how he feels about immigration laws? All those clowns that create sanctuary jmg257 Jan 2020 #79
Apparently the voters don't want to fire him. dware Jan 2020 #98
Code of Virginia 24.2-233 struggle4progress Jan 2020 #62
There's the rub, dware Jan 2020 #64
This is not a heavy lift Cosmocat Jan 2020 #70
How do you know that the Dems in his county don't agree dware Jan 2020 #71
10% - roughly 20% of the dems in the county Cosmocat Jan 2020 #80
+! Only 586 signatures needed struggle4progress Jan 2020 #78
Yep - thanks for doing the math Cosmocat Jan 2020 #81
He got 2943 voters in the November election. His opponent got 2,904. He won by only 39 votes. struggle4progress Jan 2020 #75
His opponent was a Republican who undoubtedly agrees with his position onenote Jan 2020 #129
State of the Commonwealth 2020 Survey Report struggle4progress Jan 2020 #142
So many Sheriffs from different states refusing to enforce gun laws dustyscamp Jan 2020 #63
Cops aren't supposed to be activists. dubyadiprecession Jan 2020 #68
Again, dware Jan 2020 #69
You keep saying this. SlogginThroughIt Jan 2020 #139
So he supports sanctuary cities? LonePirate Jan 2020 #76
Great & obvious point of course - likely 2A sanctuary - which is a thing now. nt jmg257 Jan 2020 #82
Are there any in his county? Kaleva Jan 2020 #107
We applauded sheriffs who refused to enforce marijuana laws (nt) Recursion Jan 2020 #84
Shhhhh... tazkcmo Jan 2020 #106
This is interesting. atreides1 Jan 2020 #85
Wow police ignored a bunch of RWNJs wearing masks and went straight for a nonprotestor wearinga mask dustyscamp Jan 2020 #86
Guessing Sheriff Goober SoCalNative Jan 2020 #89
Refusing to enforce the law automatically disqualifies him. n/t cynatnite Jan 2020 #100
Not according to the voters in his county. nt dware Jan 2020 #103
And yet, Fla_Democrat Jan 2020 #115
That's not his choice... NiteOwl1 Jan 2020 #120
What he's saying that he will not do his job and protect the citizens rockfordfile Jan 2020 #121
City Council should remove him from office. lark Jan 2020 #127
First of all, he is a County Sheriff. And he's elected onenote Jan 2020 #128
Guess the rules everywhere are different, didn't think about that. lark Jan 2020 #130
In Virginia, counties and cities are separate. You live in one or the other, not both. onenote Jan 2020 #132
Under what authority..he's a County officer? AncientGeezer Jan 2020 #131
Wow, so scary.... Bettie Jan 2020 #133
You're Fired for Misfeasance, Sir. MineralMan Jan 2020 #140
Sheriffs are elected officials. Straw Man Feb 2020 #146
And I am a voter. I can vote to fire any elected official. MineralMan Feb 2020 #147
Actually, no you can't. Straw Man Feb 2020 #148
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