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Mersky

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107. Schumer called this 'trial' without witnesses and documents a perfidy, and I completely agree.

Fri Jan 31, 2020, 07:02 PM

Jan 2020

Merriam Webster:

perfidy noun
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per·fi·dy | ˈpər-fə-dē
plural perfidies
Definition of perfidy
1 : the quality or state of being faithless or disloyal : TREACHERY
2 : an act or an instance of disloyalty
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/perfidy

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Dictionary.com:
perfidy[ pur-fi-dee ]SHOW IPA
SEE SYNONYMS FOR perfidy ON THESAURUS.COM
noun, plural per·fi·dies.
deliberate breach of faith or trust; faithlessness; treachery:
perfidy that goes unpunished.
an act or instance of faithlessness or treachery.
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/perfidy

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Wikipedia:

In the context of war, perfidy is a form of deception in which one side promises to act in good faith (such as by raising a flag of truce) with the intention of breaking that promise once the unsuspecting enemy is exposed (such as by coming out of cover to attack the enemy coming to take the "surrendering" prisoners into custody). Perfidy constitutes a breach of the laws of war and so is a war crime, as it degrades the protections and mutual restraints developed in the interest of all parties, combatants and civilians.

As of 5:00 pm CT 1/31/20: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfidy

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****LIVE IMPEACHMENT TRIAL 1/31/20 THREAD 2**** [View all] BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 OP

****15 MINUTE RECESS**** BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #1

So, does Cipollone dare show his face after the break? Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2020 #2

MSNBC is discussing him. BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #3

You know better ... Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #4

Remember, TV sets cost money. Only throw soft objects. nolabear Jan 2020 #5

What'd I miss? underpants Jan 2020 #8

in Schiff's opening he mentioned the Bolton news today Kali Jan 2020 #17

local CBS back to regular programming ... Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #6

and local broadcast NBC is out. only PBS continuing Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #7

This is an awfully long 15 minutes. n/t rzemanfl Jan 2020 #9

It's been about 45 minutes so far BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #10

Meanwhile, back at the outhouse, rzemanfl Jan 2020 #11

MSNBC mentioned that too - particularly the Parnas lawyer drop. BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #12

Parnas's lawyer sent letter to McConnell offering testimony, call. travel records, documents PA Democrat Jan 2020 #14

Turtle has emerged from his burrow and was seen in the hallway. BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #13

****BACK IN SESSION**** BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #15

Presentation from WH counsels - Philbin up BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #16

Philbin is lying -- "emotional abuse of power". he's providing fig leaves for GOPers. Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #18

is Philbin there just to let the Senators catch up on sleep? drone drone drone Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #19

Same old arguments AGAIN and AGAIN! elleng Jan 2020 #20

STFU, philbin, your talents don't matter in this non-trial Mersky Jan 2020 #21

GOP really is a crime syndicate ... Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #23

Yep, is all they really care about Mersky Jan 2020 #25

House proceedings took 78 days...the Senate will only be a fraction of that... cynatnite Jan 2020 #22

Philbin's nonsense is done and now on to Suckylow BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #24

Sekulow is wasting time. SamKnause Jan 2020 #26

His list of witnesses sounds vaguely like a threat. Arkansas Granny Jan 2020 #27

Thanks again for running these threads, BumRushDaShow crickets Jan 2020 #28

Am I the only one who wants to throttle Philbin and Suck-him-low? greatauntoftriplets Jan 2020 #29

hey, stupid Sekulow, it is an impeachable offense -- the House impeached him! ... Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #30

Suckylow is done and now to the House for rebuttal. BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #31

This is going fast. I hope the rebuttal is a barn burner. nolabear Jan 2020 #32

Schiff sounds GOOD! elleng Jan 2020 #34

Schiff is shredded the WH counsels idiotic assertion that having witnesses in a trial BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #33

Schiff is not going to let them nap as they did through Philbin's low-key mumbling. Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #35

Republican Cover-Up Progressive2020 Jan 2020 #36

Schiff - this is the "Dershowitz principle of constitutional lawlessness" BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #37

"Greatest deliberative body in the world, but not even you can deliberate a trial without witnesses" Mersky Jan 2020 #38

...a daily drip of new disclosures that would set them back on their heels... nolabear Jan 2020 #39

Schiff - "The President's team came here unprepared for trial" BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #40

Truth hurts. He is so right. crickets Jan 2020 #42

Which points to the fact that they already knew the fix was in. Arkansas Granny Jan 2020 #45

Yup. BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #46

+1 crickets Jan 2020 #55

Bolton's response to being asked to testify was crickets Jan 2020 #41

VIDEO of Schiff's rebuttal Mersky Jan 2020 #43

For starters, the Founders would be confused by the words "phone records" and "Republican." mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2020 #44

talk about a real Kali Jan 2020 #54

Was Blackburn tweeting during the trial in violation of Senate's trial rules? Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #57

Schiff - "There is a storm blowing through this Capital" BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #47

Took my breath away Pachamama Jan 2020 #56

Schiff had a magnificent closing. BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #48

He truly is amazing. nt crickets Jan 2020 #52

I am weeping Kali Jan 2020 #49

Schiff ends on powerful note and McConnell immediately calls for quorum call Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #50

Turtle - ***QUORUM CALL*** BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #51

What's up with that? Is that a stalling technique? Arkansas Granny Jan 2020 #53

It's actually a common Senate procedure BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #64

Standard Senate technique to kill time... brooklynite Jan 2020 #66

That was an incredible presentation by Schiff. underpants Jan 2020 #58

Yep. n/t EndlessWire Jan 2020 #61

Steve Scully has mentioned that Schumer & Turtle and other leaders are caucusing BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #59

in other words, Moscow Mitch was afraid some GOPers were swayed by Schiff's words ... Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #60

I'm pretty sure their words overlapped. Arkansas Granny Jan 2020 #62

Mitch was scared some might -think-. Gotta browbeat 'em back in lockstep. Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #63

Quorum call EndlessWire Jan 2020 #65

or could it be so many Rs out doing tweets and press, there was no quorum? ... Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #75

I agree. n/t EndlessWire Feb 2020 #110

The MSNBC pundits are noting BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #69

That could be the source of McConnell's fear. ... Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #70

I noticed that. Mersky Jan 2020 #71

old snapping turtles can move fast when necessary Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #73

And alexander is over there yakking and laughing over with Moscow Mitch's gaggle of jerks Mersky Jan 2020 #77

Aretha Franklin has a word for Republicans ... Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #67

Is image resolution of the Senate video high enough for lip-readers to tell what people are saying? royable Jan 2020 #68

I wanted to know EndlessWire Jan 2020 #74

Meanwhile, in North Korea... EndlessWire Jan 2020 #72

Claire McCaskill says the WH wants it forced through now/tonight NightWatcher Jan 2020 #76

So, Moscow Mitch still wants the -appearance- of a trial? Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #78

All the Senators want a 15 minute spot on the Senate floor crickets Jan 2020 #80

WH wants the superbowl moment. crickets Jan 2020 #79

Too bad, there's too much new shit now budkin Jan 2020 #81

coming back Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #82

****BACK IN SESSION**** BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #83

Turtle - will cast vote on witness and then go into recess subject to call of chair BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #84

"They just scattered like a raid commercial" backtoblue Jan 2020 #85

***ROLL CALL FOR WITNESSES*** BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #86

you hearing a bunch of "aye"s? Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #89

nevermind. forgot it was alphabetical, not party Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #91

Collins did do an AYE BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #87

Here we go Mersky Jan 2020 #88

Jones did do an AYE BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #90

Manchin did do an AYE BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #92

Well, thank goodness for that Mersky Jan 2020 #95

Yes - ALL (D)s and (I)s who caucus with (D)s, voted for witnesses BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #102

Romney did an AYE BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #93

Sinema did an AYE BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #94

***COUNT 51 - 49 AGAINST WITNESSES**** BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #96

... crickets Jan 2020 #98

I'm guessing Romney and Collins voted Yes. underpants Jan 2020 #106

***RECESS SUBJECT TO CALL OF CHAIR*** BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #97

do you have any idea what that means? Kali Jan 2020 #105

GOP are abortionists of justice, due process, and rule of law! Backseat Driver Jan 2020 #99

We expected them to block witnesses and documents blogslut Jan 2020 #100

Schumer has described the actions of the Senate as a perfidy crickets Jan 2020 #101

I agree. n/t EndlessWire Jan 2020 #108

Why wouldn't the Senate subpoena documents? . . . Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #103

****LIVE IMPEACHMENT TRIAL 1/31/20 THREAD 3**** UP BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #104

Schumer called this 'trial' without witnesses and documents a perfidy, and I completely agree. Mersky Jan 2020 #107

+1 crickets Jan 2020 #109