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Hortensis

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11. Trump defines Democrats as a wacko unhinged mob.
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 09:06 PM
Feb 2020

Is that correct because he "uses a different definition"? Maybe cast your mind back to school? Learning proper definitions is hugely necessary to understanding. As a wise man said, we're entitled to our own opinions but not our own facts.

This takeaway should be a big clue to reality:

None of the European nations whose capitalism-embracing solutions Sanders rejects needed to overthrow their governments to socialize some government services. The people just voted to have them within their existing systems.

But Sanders believes that only by lying and smashing our democracy can he achieve his socialist goals. He's right. Because it destroys many of the individual freedoms democracy was created to protect, socialism has always required destructive, and usually violent, socialist revolutions to impose it on those unfortunate nations.

NEVER support a leader who lies to you. He has reasons you wouldn't like or he wouldn't do it.

Social Democracy [View all] Progressive2020 Feb 2020 OP
European-Style Democracy Shermann Feb 2020 #1
There's a major difference between Social Democrats and Democratic Socialists, within Europe. OnDoutside Feb 2020 #4
Yes Progressive2020 Feb 2020 #6
Democratic Socialism is Bernie's little in-joke, it's Socialism, most likely of a Trotskyist nature. OnDoutside Feb 2020 #2
What basis do you have for saying that? mjvpi Feb 2020 #5
Because I am European, live in Europe and have grown up watching the evolution of hard line OnDoutside Feb 2020 #7
Yeah Progressive2020 Mar 2020 #19
In US terms, definitely he is a hard line socialist, as the GOP will paint from wall to wall. OnDoutside Mar 2020 #27
Thank you. mjvpi Feb 2020 #3
Reagan Revolution Progressive2020 Feb 2020 #8
My party in the guise of moving to the middle has helped the right take over. mjvpi Mar 2020 #15
I Agree Progressive2020 Mar 2020 #25
Society Security is NOT the slightest bit socialist and to say so Hortensis Feb 2020 #9
Definitions Progressive2020 Feb 2020 #10
Trump defines Democrats as a wacko unhinged mob. Hortensis Feb 2020 #11
I Disagree Progressive2020 Feb 2020 #13
Insistence on following a leader who lies Hortensis Mar 2020 #14
Definitions Again Progressive2020 Mar 2020 #17
Nonsense. Seriously. Some definitions are truth, some are lies Hortensis Mar 2020 #18
I Disagree Progressive2020 Mar 2020 #20
Trump and the massively corrupt Republicans disagree also. Hortensis Mar 2020 #21
It Is A False Equivalency Progressive2020 Mar 2020 #22
Well, aside from the others who swallow without checking Hortensis Mar 2020 #23
Maybe Progressive2020 Mar 2020 #26
Face it. It's Sanders' fault that he calls himself a democratic socialist instead... brush Feb 2020 #12
They took money out of my paycheck EndlessWire Mar 2020 #16
Social Democracy Progressive2020 Mar 2020 #24
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