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Haggis for Breakfast

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23. What I meant is that it's not alive and kicking in the normal sense
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 06:07 PM
Apr 2020

that we think of when we classify something as being a living organism. "Is it alive ?" Well, we still don't have a clear guideline, much less a universally agreed upon standard by which to say yes or no.

There's been a raging (Bad choice of words !) debate about whether viruses are a living thing or not since long before I was in school (and that was back when dinosaurs roamed the Earth). One of my Dons used to say that a virus is alive, but attenuated, in that it is weakened just below the thresh hold of that we can say with certainty (a BIG word in science) is alive. So, the debate goes on and on.

Am I making any sense ? I think I phrased this whole thing in a confusing manner. Sorry.

Yes. Haggis for Breakfast Apr 2020 #1
Yes, I have, but I don't know what point you're trying to make. Goodheart Apr 2020 #3
What I meant is that it's not alive and kicking in the normal sense Haggis for Breakfast Apr 2020 #23
attenuated does not automatically mean what is being attenuated is alive Celerity Apr 2020 #26
See my previous post. Haggis for Breakfast Apr 2020 #29
I think we need a concrete definition of what life is in order to answer the question definitively Celerity Apr 2020 #30
Agreed. Haggis for Breakfast Apr 2020 #31
+1 thanks for the replies Celerity Apr 2020 #33
Whenever I fail to be clear or make a mistake or put out bad intel, Haggis for Breakfast Apr 2020 #34
much appreciated Celerity Apr 2020 #35
poll the virus lol nt msongs Apr 2020 #2
Well it would have to be activated first lol grantcart Apr 2020 #5
No idea, but worth bookmarking to see the comments. OAITW r.2.0 Apr 2020 #4
No, but for convenience we should discuss them as if they are and treat them as if they are... RockRaven Apr 2020 #6
This!👆 SheltieLover Apr 2020 #10
A virus does not meet the definition of life fully GeorgiaPeanut Apr 2020 #7
Not until it becomes activated by attaching to a cell grantcart Apr 2020 #8
I would say anything that can put the whole world on its timetable is very much alive - milestogo Apr 2020 #9
Genetic particle Zambero Apr 2020 #11
That's all very interesting, but you didn't vote! Goodheart Apr 2020 #12
Just did! Zambero Apr 2020 #19
Yes. Living, eating & destroying peoples lungs everywhere. n/t napi21 Apr 2020 #13
it's really a question of semantics in that we know what a virus is unblock Apr 2020 #14
prions aren't alive qazplm135 Apr 2020 #15
Well, the Evangelicals seem opposed to eradicating it, so it has the "pro-lifers" on its side jberryhill Apr 2020 #16
Lol. Good one. MLAA Apr 2020 #17
I heard someone describe it as a very large molecule Dem2 Apr 2020 #18
Are seeds alive? They have the potential for life, under the right conditions, but can die Baclava Apr 2020 #20
I vote YES on the seed. Goodheart Apr 2020 #22
George Lives!! lastlib Apr 2020 #36
This isn't one of those things determined by polling of public opinion, is it? nt greyl Apr 2020 #21
First we have to agree on a definition of "alive". DavidDvorkin Apr 2020 #24
+100000 Celerity Apr 2020 #27
Maybe the OP is asking if it's sentient... if it knows what it's doing... planning, scheming, etc. NurseJackie Apr 2020 #28
It Reproduces ProfessorGAC Apr 2020 #25
Yes and since this one is 19 it can vote! whistler162 Apr 2020 #32
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