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sarge43

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27. Yes they are.

Wed Apr 29, 2020, 03:17 PM

Apr 2020

They're commissioned upon graduation. Further, completing the academy commits to six years of service. If they don't, for reasons of their own choosing, such as disobeying an order, they have to pay back Uncle for that four years of free college.

It's called dismissal for cause. Equivalent to an other than honorable discharge for enlisted. Doesn't put any gold stars on your resume.

It's certainly a stupid order. It'll be tougher to argue it's an illegal one.

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The military cadets who are being forced to risk their lives for a reality show. [View all] shockey80 Apr 2020 OP

As West Point cadets are they under military orders, or The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2020 #1

Aren't they commisioned officers at this point? efhmc Apr 2020 #3

I don't know; I have no idea how that whole thing works. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2020 #5

So fucking what. Couldn't dying from the virus fuck up their career? shockey80 Apr 2020 #8

Yes they are. And you are 100% correct. LiberalLoner Apr 2020 #19

They usually receive their commissions at the graduation. SeattleVet Apr 2020 #26

Yes they are. sarge43 Apr 2020 #27

Up to sophomore year they can leave without penalty Ex Lurker Apr 2020 #6

Right, We'll see how close we are to a fascist dictatorship. slumcamper Apr 2020 #24

I am furious about this. The cadets have no choice, but Congress DOES. hlthe2b Apr 2020 #2

I keep on hearing this by Americans and it's driving me crazy. shockey80 Apr 2020 #4

STOP IT. They are military cadets. It isn't like some college student making a political stance hlthe2b Apr 2020 #7

BULLSHIT. I did it. I refused a direct order. shockey80 Apr 2020 #11

You got damned lucky. And no, that is not the rule nor will it be considered "honorable"... hlthe2b Apr 2020 #13

No, I did not get lucky. shockey80 Apr 2020 #17

good for you. as we learned at nuremburg, following orders is no defense nt msongs Apr 2020 #31

Will they get close to the President? yellowwoodII Apr 2020 #9

They will be quarantined for two weeks before the presidential campaign photo op. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2020 #12

The graduation isn't until June 13, so cadets would need to begin quarantine by late May Fiendish Thingy Apr 2020 #23

The smart ones will discover they have symptoms and thus will be unable to travel. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2020 #10

++++ hlthe2b Apr 2020 #14

Do not the Cadets Wellstone ruled Apr 2020 #15

Most of them are, if not already, headed for advanced training in their MOS. sarge43 Apr 2020 #30

One thing that will happen is, Wellstone ruled Apr 2020 #34

As said up thread, academy grads commit to six years of service. sarge43 Apr 2020 #36

Yes iksome. Wellstone ruled Apr 2020 #37

My tax money pays for that, so I also have the right to say it obamanut2012 Apr 2020 #16

Congress needs to step up now ScratchCat Apr 2020 #18

Everyone knows the cadets are being used so Trump can put on a show. shockey80 Apr 2020 #20

Also, Moron's nose is out of joint, because Pants got to run his mouth at the AF academy. sarge43 Apr 2020 #33

I agree, and I am an old army brat. They should refuse to harm the public. demigoddess Apr 2020 #21

Thank you. shockey80 Apr 2020 #22

Those military cadets need to remember they are going to be leaders of men and women NotHardly Apr 2020 #25

trump never misses a chance to shit on the military. (nt) Paladin Apr 2020 #28

The Sergeant said, "Sir, with all this equipment, no man will be able to swim." rocktivity Apr 2020 #29

Lawful order tiptonic Apr 2020 #32

How is this "illegal"? sarge43 Apr 2020 #35