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PunkinPi

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26. I'm not saying defunding wouldn't occur within reform.

Wed Jun 10, 2020, 11:56 AM

Jun 2020

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I don't think communities should be spending 1/3 of their budget on police, however I think the trouble occurs with how "defund" is defined. What does it mean? Kind of like how M4A was defined in different ways depending on who was being asked.

I think there needs to be a reimagining of what the role police play in society. I don't think they should be militarized (that would be a specific way to cut funding). And I believe in reallocating resources to support things like housing, education, health/mental health, access to capital, etc. is imperative.

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"Defund" - such a poor choice, right? [View all] qwlauren35 Jun 2020 OP

I have a severe issue with people trying to tell black activists which words are acceptable SoonerPride Jun 2020 #1

I have heard so many reasons. qwlauren35 Jun 2020 #5

Exactly. Thank you. SoonerPride Jun 2020 #7

One Group RobinA Jun 2020 #25

The problem with "defund" is that it is a reactive term. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2020 #2

"Rethink Police Budgets"? maxsolomon Jun 2020 #17

Not saying it has to be "rethink" Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2020 #20

It is accurate, but feels milquetoast. maxsolomon Jun 2020 #28

Yes It Does Suggest A Solution RobinA Jun 2020 #27

Well its better than "defend the police" but thats about it. milestogo Jun 2020 #3

So far "defund" has had to be explained to everyone. And if you're explaining, you're losing. Gidney N Cloyd Jun 2020 #4

Nothing is ever good enough. SoonerPride Jun 2020 #6

But if you spend too much time getting defensive about your messaging... Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2020 #9

Maybe if people would focus on the issue at hand instead of attacking word choices... SoonerPride Jun 2020 #10

Okay, I see we have a chicken and the egg thing going on here. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2020 #15

Choosing the most effective words helps with that focus. Gidney N Cloyd Jun 2020 #16

and once again whites come to the rescue to tell blacks what messages are palatable to THEM. SoonerPride Jun 2020 #19

You again? I'm black and I think "defund the police" is the stupidest... brush Jun 2020 #29

I'm with Rep Clyburn on this one -- reform. PunkinPi Jun 2020 #8

Can't agree. qwlauren35 Jun 2020 #11

I agree with you. We have been "reforming" the police since the 60's and nothing has changed. cayugafalls Jun 2020 #21

I'm not saying defunding wouldn't occur within reform. PunkinPi Jun 2020 #26

+1 Gidney N Cloyd Jun 2020 #12

Why not "define and defend" the definition? cayugafalls Jun 2020 #13

"Defund the Police" is as poor a slogan as "Democratic Socialism" brooklynite Jun 2020 #14

Agreed 100%. It's red meat for trump to feed to voters... brush Jun 2020 #31

I'm thinking "Disband". rgbecker Jun 2020 #18

I like "abolish," myself -- I learned about police abolition from black women, and I follow their WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2020 #22

I am white and it's not my call Maeve Jun 2020 #23

You Have No Stake RobinA Jun 2020 #30

Of course I have a stake--that's not what I said Maeve Jun 2020 #37

It's a fine line between stupid and clever. Sneederbunk Jun 2020 #24

The response to this thread answers the question itself. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2020 #32

Um... qwlauren35 Jun 2020 #33

I don't think the word "defund" is a black or white term. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2020 #34

Too many differering interpretations to be effective Zambero Jun 2020 #35

"Defund the police" is a Russian bot wedge used across platforms right now; so yeah, wrong choice. ancianita Jun 2020 #36

I think that the fact that support hangs on a "Slogan" is sad. Caliman73 Jun 2020 #38