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Proud Liberal Dem

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38. Several things here:
Sun Jun 14, 2020, 10:07 PM
Jun 2020

1. Development of a vaccine/treatment(s) are the basic responsibility of any government confronted with a pandemic. If Trump achieves this by October/November, great, but it's the bare butt minimum that any government would be expected to do. So, if one is developed and proven safe and starting to get administered, great, but it won't be "game over" for COVID-19 quite yet. It will have to be administered to millions of people over a course of several months (possibly with multiple doses), so we would still need to maintain some level of caution until it is available widespread and people are beginning to become inoculated against the virus.
2. Having a vaccine available does NOT wipe out Trump's lack of responsiveness to the pandemic, nor his lack of leadership and, at times, his totally awful leadership during the pandemic.
3. Having a vaccine does not bring back the hundreds of thousands of people whom have died and the thousands that will continue to die every week from it until it is no longer an issue, not to mention all of the people who got the virus and may have developed long-term medical issues due to their exposure to it. Trump and others will likely argue that it could have been worse (hundreds of thousands of dead people is still appalling IMHO and the counter hasn't stopped yet), but there is a counterfactual argument to be made that it could have been better had certain things been in place, faster response time, more restrictions, and, most importantly, competent national leadership.

Isn't THAT a good idea, elleng Jun 2020 #1
You can bet Trump et al. have already thought of it. This just warns the reat of us. nt Hekate Jun 2020 #9
The op-ed is trying to "vaccinate" us against Trump's bogus claim DBoon Jun 2020 #19
I fully expected a stunt around vaccines from him. Blue_true Jun 2020 #40
Well then.... Tree-Hugger Jun 2020 #2
I figured he was going to try something like this Jarqui Jun 2020 #3
Trump specializes in promising the moon to the gullible. He really does not care about any result... Hekate Jun 2020 #10
He'll claim only he knows the vaccine formula, and will release it when he's re-elected. sop Jun 2020 #17
Absolutely. Jarqui Jun 2020 #33
No surprise to me. no_hypocrisy Jun 2020 #4
I totally expect him to pull a stunt with vaccines. Blue_true Jun 2020 #39
Maybe. Maybe not LeftInTX Jun 2020 #5
They can't even send checks out to Americans Horse with no Name Jun 2020 #22
I know LeftInTX Jun 2020 #25
The right ratios of bleach, Lysol, and hydroxychloroquine. keithbvadu2 Jun 2020 #6
He will say if you don't vote for me you don't get the vaccine SoonerPride Jun 2020 #7
That won't go well Renew Deal Jun 2020 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author morillon Jun 2020 #8
He'll say it even though it turns out later there wasn't even anything in the syringes BamaRefugee Jun 2020 #11
Exactly. nt Blue_true Jun 2020 #41
"Even safer than drinking bleach! Even more effective than hydroxychloroquine! struggle4progress Jun 2020 #12
Whatever. budkin Jun 2020 #13
Bingo!!!!! nt Blue_true Jun 2020 #42
Chloroquine, bleach, and cyanide perhaps? Doreen Jun 2020 #14
Sufficient unto the day are the problems therein . . . Journeyman Jun 2020 #15
Joe Biden and the democrats are forewarned. So, they should be forearmed. Jim__ Jun 2020 #16
I think it would look like a stunt and backfire. There would need to be proof and the news media Quixote1818 Jun 2020 #18
Don't count on the news media. We have seen them in action and it has been horrid. nt Blue_true Jun 2020 #43
I don't think people are voting on whether or not a vaccine is available. Renew Deal Jun 2020 #20
and he'll credit Ivanka with having discovered the vaccine. Demovictory9 Jun 2020 #21
...... Tanuki Jun 2020 #27
I'm going to balk on this scenario JHB Jun 2020 #24
I'll Take The Vaccine If It's Safe modrepub Jun 2020 #26
We should be surprised Docreed2003 Jun 2020 #28
I'm gonna count on his incompetence. Walleye Jun 2020 #29
If so, it will be incumbent on the manufacturer to either confirm its safety and efficacy, OilemFirchen Jun 2020 #30
That wouldn't save him book_worm Jun 2020 #31
The blinders are off now, for all but the most eager to be fooled. crickets Jun 2020 #32
Even if true, nobody will believe him. tinrobot Jun 2020 #34
I may be wrong, but there are NO undecided's at this time. Ferrets are Cool Jun 2020 #35
No significance to the fact that it appears in the Times... brooklynite Jun 2020 #36
Mind filling in those of us who don't read tealeaves? nt Blue_true Jun 2020 #44
Yeah, NOT gonna fall for that. Known Liar, nuff said. Won't vote for that Maggot, period. SammyWinstonJack Jun 2020 #37
Several things here: Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2020 #38
A lot of Trumpers are Anti-Vaxxers AwakeAtLast Jun 2020 #45
We already know he'll tell any lie he has to. The last ten days are going to be a ooky Jun 2020 #46
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