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marie999

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6. Destroying a statue does not tell people what this person did.

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Sun Jul 5, 2020, 08:40 AM

Jul 2020

Putting these statues in museums with a history of what these people did, does.

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Statue's like "is this ...the Indian Ocean?" [View all] bigtree Jul 2020 OP

May I ask why? nt doc03 Jul 2020 #1

I didn't do it bigtree Jul 2020 #2

I got the joke Flo Mingo Jul 2020 #11

Because Columbus and his men raped and killed and tortured and enslaved multitudes Squinch Jul 2020 #4

Back in that day don't you think anyone else would doc03 Jul 2020 #8

You want to continue to glorify Columbus? That's on you. Squinch Jul 2020 #9

Post removed Post removed Jul 2020 #12

"What about African's that sold their own people into slavery?" Nature Man Jul 2020 #39

Are you saying it didnt happen? doc03 Jul 2020 #41

I'm saying that I'm African-American Nature Man Jul 2020 #57

What exactly is stopping people from mass-raping 9 year old children again then? ck4829 Jul 2020 #10

People are not idolizing him for that. So I guess doc03 Jul 2020 #13

What is it about 1865 that only after that year should atrocities be acknowledged? Squinch Jul 2020 #20

It doesn't matter what I think it is the people doc03 Jul 2020 #37

Those people are never going to vote for Biden, no point in trying to coddle them. n/t Humanist_Activist Jul 2020 #43

I think you are wrong, there are former Democrats doc03 Jul 2020 #56

What you are doing, Nature Man Jul 2020 #58

If anyone is moved to either not vote or vote Trump over Humanist_Activist Jul 2020 #60

You do realize that Columbus was fired from his position as governor of Hispaniola because of... Humanist_Activist Jul 2020 #42

He commited genocide and was a child molester. Ferrets are Cool Jul 2020 #44

Wtf is this nonsense? PTWB Jul 2020 #65

No dude, just no. MrsCoffee Jul 2020 #67

We can exempt people born into a system and being part of it krispos42 Jul 2020 #30

Memorializing racist, psychopathic butchers isn't OK. PTWB Jul 2020 #31

Aside from mass genocide you mean?? jcgoldie Jul 2020 #36

Yup Nature Man Jul 2020 #46

Somehow, I think a few other states will join Colorado in replacing Columbus Day hlthe2b Jul 2020 #3

We have Indigenous Peoples Day in California, too tishaLA Jul 2020 #108

The statue sits in the Little Italy neighborhood of Baltimore, near the harbor struggle4progress Jul 2020 #5

I agree it only helps Trump. nt doc03 Jul 2020 #7

why? bigtree Jul 2020 #16

I don't care who is doing it but that is what leads doc03 Jul 2020 #35

again, Democrats aren't toppling statues bigtree Jul 2020 #45

Who do you think is being blamed for it? When doc03 Jul 2020 #53

'Trump spoke' bigtree Jul 2020 #59

I could careless what a traitor says rockfordfile Jul 2020 #101

Thank you for your concern Nature Man Jul 2020 #49

It doesn't matter if it is "this" or something else... Ferrets are Cool Jul 2020 #52

Um Nature Man Jul 2020 #79

I could careless what a Nazi network says rockfordfile Jul 2020 #100

I don't agree with that rockfordfile Jul 2020 #19

Yes. It's a big deal to Italian Americans who were lynched Drahthaardogs Jul 2020 #15

Then we need to pick another Italian figure to glorify. Italian Americans of good faith, Squinch Jul 2020 #22

Meh Drahthaardogs Jul 2020 #26

That is a truly disgusting, not to mention inaccurate, post. Squinch Jul 2020 #28

It most certainly IS accurate Drahthaardogs Jul 2020 #29

Sorry, no. It really isn't. And your logic is fucked up too. You are essentially saying that Squinch Jul 2020 #32

Sorry reality just gobsmacked you Drahthaardogs Jul 2020 #33

Sorry, you really aren't telling me anything that I don't know a lot about. Our posts crossed Squinch Jul 2020 #34

That's bullshit. They were also there to proselytize Drahthaardogs Jul 2020 #40

Where did I claim it was false that the Aztecs sacrificed slaves? I never said that. Squinch Jul 2020 #47

Yet....they did Drahthaardogs Jul 2020 #62

You keep saying I said the Aztecs didn't sacrifice slaves. You made that up. I never said that. Squinch Jul 2020 #68

You did say it Drahthaardogs Jul 2020 #72

Link to where I said it. Because I never did. I actually understand the history. I know Squinch Jul 2020 #74

Did you celebrate the 4th yesterday? Drahthaardogs Jul 2020 #81

I said simply that your post was disgusting and inaccurate. Which it was. Squinch Jul 2020 #86

Meh. Drahthaardogs Jul 2020 #91

you are a terrible person SiliconValley_Dem Jul 2020 #92

But I'm not a hypocrite! Drahthaardogs Jul 2020 #94

but you claimed concern for 'Italian Americans who were lynched' in one post bigtree Jul 2020 #95

Nope. I'm not unmoved at all Drahthaardogs Jul 2020 #97

Thank you for this post. Saved ME the time of typing it out. Ferrets are Cool Jul 2020 #54

I think a lot of people don't actually know the facts about Columbus. They are truly horriffic. Squinch Jul 2020 #69

Thom Hartmann educated me about 12 years ago Ferrets are Cool Jul 2020 #76

I'm reading now about the Puritans and what they did to the natives. Squinch Jul 2020 #78

But you still live here Drahthaardogs Jul 2020 #83

my 'ancestors' were brought here against their will bigtree Jul 2020 #85

We are taught early on in schools (at least when you are my age) and with television Ferrets are Cool Jul 2020 #84

I'll definitely read this. Thank you. Squinch Jul 2020 #89

Columbus was evil rockfordfile Jul 2020 #105

Doubling down? Nature Man Jul 2020 #82

It doesn't matter about different times. Once a pos mass murder always rockfordfile Jul 2020 #102

Southern Italians are still not considered "white" in some places Nature Man Jul 2020 #51

So they, more than anyone, should know that it is not OK to glorify a man who Squinch Jul 2020 #71

Columbus wasn't an 'immigrant,' he was a colonizer bigtree Jul 2020 #17

I don't object to the statue being removed: I object to mobs of self-righteous nitwits struggle4progress Jul 2020 #23

This is a good point, independent of the merit of the statue. nt coti Jul 2020 #87

there are three Columbus statues in Baltimore bigtree Jul 2020 #88

Yet you enjoy the fruits of his work. Drahthaardogs Jul 2020 #27

you first. bigtree Jul 2020 #50

I'm not complaining Drahthaardogs Jul 2020 #66

Africa? Nature Man Jul 2020 #73

It's not racists Drahthaardogs Jul 2020 #75

Columbus never set foot in what is now the United States Nature Man Jul 2020 #77

that's a generous reading bigtree Jul 2020 #80

I agree rockfordfile Jul 2020 #103

+1 nsd Jul 2020 #24

It's gonna piss off the Italian population Polybius Jul 2020 #55

you mean in Baltimore bigtree Jul 2020 #64

Most of us Democrats are reasonable moderates Polybius Jul 2020 #98

I support taking them down and replacing with a true Italian American rockfordfile Jul 2020 #104

Not by toppling them Polybius Jul 2020 #107

Destroying a statue does not tell people what this person did. marie999 Jul 2020 #6

too late for that bigtree Jul 2020 #14

Anarchy kentuck Jul 2020 #18

which Democrat? bigtree Jul 2020 #21

which Democrat? kentuck Jul 2020 #25

why an African-American? bigtree Jul 2020 #38

Excellent points! kentuck Jul 2020 #48

One person's "lawlessness" Nature Man Jul 2020 #61

+1. We have no business worshiping some genocidal maniac who never set foot in America dalton99a Jul 2020 #70

This is not the result of Trump but a long time coming. Trump is a symptom not the disease. N/T Humanist_Activist Jul 2020 #63

Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah! malaise Jul 2020 #90

oh my god bigtree Jul 2020 #93

There was a DUer who spent copious time malaise Jul 2020 #96

That's hilarious Solly Mack Jul 2020 #99

Good one, Emily! betsuni Jul 2020 #106