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crickets

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50. This is incredibly condescending.
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 09:17 PM
Aug 2020

If Brown really wanted to give Kamala Harris some advice, he could have called her on the phone and had a private conversation with her. It's really out of left field for him to inject himself into the situation this way. It's rude.

The VP position, particularly as it was defined by Obama and Biden during Obama's two terms, involved much more responsibility than in the past. The post under Biden is not at all likely to be the placeholder it might be for a different president. Not only that, turning down a VP request leaves no guarantee that the AG spot would be offered to her.

Biden picks these roles and does not need Brown's input.

Finally, while I wouldn't begrudge anyone all due career considerations before making a decision like this, Brown's emphasis on power and career over country really leaves me cold. The US is reeling: we're dealing with a pandemic, eminent economic collapse, social unrest, and a petulant wanna-be dictator.

When our government is teetering on the brink, a paternalistic career day lecture hits a sour note.

What Brown fails to take into account is that if offered the job, Kamala Harris might just want to accept because she hears the call to serve her country. That is entirely up to her -- or anyone else offered the job.

All the mansplainers and complainers need to butt out and let a grown woman make up her own mind.

Who's Willie and why should I/anybody listen to him? abqtommy Aug 2020 #1
I hope you are jesting? whistler162 Aug 2020 #3
I assume you are joking. TheProle Aug 2020 #4
I'm not ashamed of being ignorant. I'll make sure to never ask you for information. abqtommy Aug 2020 #32
I can't believe that a DU poster would not know who Willie Brown is. totodeinhere Aug 2020 #57
Do you know the names of every speaker or Ilsa Aug 2020 #68
Willie Brown is one of the most influential and consequential African American politicians of the totodeinhere Aug 2020 #72
So you just want every poster who doesn't know Ilsa Aug 2020 #75
I think they used to date and he does make some valid points. n/t monmouth4 Aug 2020 #7
She doesn't listen to him anymore. Early in the campaign he... brush Aug 2020 #28
I agree and would like to see Rice w/Harris as AG, also the other option. They're all great. n/t monmouth4 Aug 2020 #37
He makes some great points. Iggo Aug 2020 #59
My thoughts exactly Mosby Aug 2020 #17
He was an extremely powerful Calif. Democratic leader Bradshaw3 Aug 2020 #18
why would a decades-old past affect her nationally? Ilsa Aug 2020 #76
Why would that complicate anything ? And he needs to go away JI7 Aug 2020 #2
There a number of ways. TheProle Aug 2020 #14
She is in her 50s with an accomplished career. Not some 20 or 30 something starting out JI7 Aug 2020 #22
She was 30 something starting out when they were dating. LisaL Aug 2020 #41
++ North Shore Chicago Aug 2020 #66
She would be an amazing AG. Can you imagine Phoenix61 Aug 2020 #5
Brown's argument is pretty unconvincing in my opinion. comradebillyboy Aug 2020 #6
Most of the time it is. TreasonousBastard Aug 2020 #8
this isn't most of the time qazplm135 Aug 2020 #9
Point is, the Veep has no explicit powers of her own. She cannot do anything without... TreasonousBastard Aug 2020 #34
VPs of late qazplm135 Aug 2020 #46
They still do not have the independent authority of someone like an AG or Interior Secretary... TreasonousBastard Aug 2020 #52
so what? qazplm135 Aug 2020 #53
That's actually my point-- she wouldn't get much of a chance to make her mark as Veep, but... TreasonousBastard Aug 2020 #54
And based on the campaign she ran last year BeyondGeography Aug 2020 #64
but when it isn't the upside is huge dsc Aug 2020 #44
Yeah, clearly Joe Biden went nowhere after his vice-presidency. ZZenith Aug 2020 #13
I wish he'd given this advice one-on-one (privately) hlthe2b Aug 2020 #10
Suggest to me that mean that the direct avenue a burnt bridge salin Aug 2020 #48
+1 crickets Aug 2020 #51
I think she'd be a good VP tavernier Aug 2020 #11
Yeah, but there's more likelihood than normal that the VP will one day be president. nt LAS14 Aug 2020 #12
this trof Aug 2020 #16
More like, "Just ask Joe Biden" - fixed it for them. 🙄 Budi Aug 2020 #15
Dick Cheney didn't do too bad either. LisaL Aug 2020 #23
Where's Brown been since 2008?! Certainly Cha Aug 2020 #29
It's damn insulting as well. Don't even put their names in the same sentence, Willie. Budi Aug 2020 #39
So right.. it is insulting! Cha Aug 2020 #43
as past relationships go, Brown is a lot less embarrassing than Stormy Orangepeel Aug 2020 #19
Willie's past his prime DonaldsRump Aug 2020 #20
Exes always give the best advice. LisaL Aug 2020 #21
Thanks, Mr. Brown, but I'd rather see Sally Yates as Attorney General, elleng Aug 2020 #24
Absolutely. I've been hoping for AG Yates, as well. Budi Aug 2020 #27
"Tells Harris. sheshe2 Aug 2020 #25
My feelings exactly. LisaL Aug 2020 #30
This ⬆️ 🤬 Budi Aug 2020 #35
She nailed his ass there. sheshe2 Aug 2020 #47
Umm hum, Not suggest, or counsels, but tells. herding cats Aug 2020 #55
!! ++ North Shore Chicago Aug 2020 #67
Maybe she already has? ucrdem Aug 2020 #26
He implied he knew mzmolly Aug 2020 #31
Ooooh..Willie has a super duper special inside line to Biden, now? Budi Aug 2020 #42
Yes. mzmolly Aug 2020 #45
He (whoever he is) "told" her nothing. TheCowsCameHome Aug 2020 #33
Fair point. TheProle Aug 2020 #40
I know very little about Willie Brown, but I swear not_the_one Aug 2020 #36
While I respect Willie Brown, he's way off base with his opinion. TwistedTinkerbelle Aug 2020 #38
Willie Brown looking for the headlines again SiliconValley_Dem Aug 2020 #49
Him sticking his nose in just brings up the "Willie Brown's Mistress" talk to surface yet again Baclava Aug 2020 #65
This is incredibly condescending. crickets Aug 2020 #50
But Willie Brown was talking to an audience of one and the one is Joe Biden. n/t totodeinhere Aug 2020 #58
How respectful of him toward both of them. nt crickets Aug 2020 #63
Willie BGBD Aug 2020 #56
I wonder if he gave Joe Biden this same advice days before Obama selected him StarfishSaver Aug 2020 #60
Senators have more power than all but three people in this country pecosbob Aug 2020 #61
She wants to be President one day so VP is the best, especially under Biden . If she isn't picked as JI7 Aug 2020 #62
Interesting he did this publicly. honest.abe Aug 2020 #69
I wouldn't put too much stock in what WB said... PunkinPi Aug 2020 #70
Why would a suggestion from a retired politician "complicate" things? brooklynite Aug 2020 #71
If Harris' goal is to be president, she'll accept. Drunken Irishman Aug 2020 #73
Oh shit. I didn't know Willie Brown was still alive. Mike 03 Aug 2020 #74
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