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Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
27. Nate Silver is light years superior to 270towin.com
Wed Aug 26, 2020, 02:29 PM
Aug 2020

Current polling is only partially relevant. Nate understands that while other compilers/analysts fall prey to the stupidity of absorbing current/recent polling as all you need to know

66% is the equivalent of a 4 point favorite in a football game. The mistake that was made around here in recent months was insisting that Trump's support could only collapse, that he would drop to 35% or even 30% approval. That was 100% ignorant of partisan mindset as well as the applicable math. Those stacks of self-identified conservatives and right-leaning moderates do not budge, especially not when an incumbent is running for re-election in the most favorable scenario in American politics...his party in power only one term.

Also, as I have long emphasized, Hispanics are loyal to the presidential incumbent. Issues mean nothing. Trump is going to gain among Hispanics even after treating them even worse than anticipated.

We need the right track/wrong track number to stay low. We need independents to remain on Biden's side. We need effective messaging down the stretch. In particular we need to understand that Texas is not going to happen and those funds should be redirected to Florida.

If those variables fall in line Biden should hold on for a narrow victory

33% for Trump. 66% chance for Joe? pwb Aug 2020 #1
It's actually 70/30 right now. bearsfootball516 Aug 2020 #3
I thought Hillary was around 72% the day of the vote, per 538 ... was it lower? (nt) mr_lebowski Aug 2020 #4
That's correct Polybius Aug 2020 #14
Exactly. Which means being up 66%-33% is in no way a comfortable lead (nt) mr_lebowski Aug 2020 #19
That is not the spead of votes -- it is odds of winnng. Le Roi de Pot Aug 2020 #5
Oh pleassse!! Thekaspervote Aug 2020 #9
and we have the same odds of making it a landslide ( 1 in 3) Le Roi de Pot Aug 2020 #10
Well said. Music Man Aug 2020 #30
lol that isn't what that means obamanut2012 Aug 2020 #33
If the polls were say 90 - 10 or even 60-40 ...the chance of Trump winning would be ZERO Le Roi de Pot Aug 2020 #34
Actually, that is what it means exactly. whopis01 Aug 2020 #36
It was 73% Biden, 27% Trump not very long ago. whopis01 Aug 2020 #35
I noticed it this morning too sweetloukillbot Aug 2020 #2
I gave up on both polling and gambling odds after the last presidential election. Chainfire Aug 2020 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author ProfessorGAC Aug 2020 #17
Nate Silver libertarian sometimes dotard defender is not the best pollster to follow....period!! Thekaspervote Aug 2020 #7
NAte Silver is not a pollster, he's an analyst with a good record Fiendish Thingy Aug 2020 #20
Nate Silver is light years superior to 270towin.com Awsi Dooger Aug 2020 #27
Not me. marble falls Aug 2020 #8
He's an incumbent president with high support amongst his own (racist) party. radius777 Aug 2020 #11
Links please Thekaspervote Aug 2020 #12
Check out this Morning Joe segment. radius777 Aug 2020 #22
They're Monte Carlo simulation electoral college results based on the error distributions of polls Klaralven Aug 2020 #13
I thought it included turnout models Le Roi de Pot Aug 2020 #15
Is 538 looking at the post office's efforts in blue states/areas to not deliver mail-in ballots, KS Toronado Aug 2020 #16
Oh give it a rest. LisaL Aug 2020 #18
NO! trumpie put dejoy in charge of the P.O. to help him win the election, & he's going to. KS Toronado Aug 2020 #24
Relax our Postal workers are professionals pwb Aug 2020 #29
Statistics is like a bikini texasfiddler Aug 2020 #21
Currently 69/30 odds in favor of Biden, with 1/100 chance of a tie Fiendish Thingy Aug 2020 #23
"538's forecast model is only about 50% based on polls, with the other 50% based on other factors" Awsi Dooger Aug 2020 #31
We are still two months out Javaman Aug 2020 #25
3 new national polls out today, including Rasmussen, which has Biden 46/Trump 45 nt Fiendish Thingy Aug 2020 #26
Rasmussen has all the credibility of Donald Trump Le Roi de Pot Aug 2020 #28
What about this is so difficult to grasp? LincolnRossiter Aug 2020 #32
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