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alcibiades_mystery

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51. Ron Paul is not volcanically controversial on DU
Sun Jan 8, 2012, 08:30 PM
Jan 2012

He has a few supporters, for the reasons you describe, most likely, many detractors, and a majority of shruggers.

Not really an important entity in Democratic or even national politics.

Now, on the drug war, I agree wholeheartedly, and, in fact, I'd suggest that most people on this board do. It's a disaster, and one of the main areas where almost everybody on the left disagrees with the politicians. It's also remarkably difficult to unwind, which everybody also understands.

I bet he bought that umbrella from Acme Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2012 #1
IMO it's also his position against WAR particularly the war on terrorism. nt jody Jan 2012 #2
And bailouts. And the Patriot Act. And Gitmo. Jackpine Radical Jan 2012 #17
Agree and if he makes Rep & Dem candidates take positions on those issues, IMO that's good. nt jody Jan 2012 #20
Ron Paul is not against war. TheWraith Jan 2012 #29
IMO that doesn't matter as long as he makes other candidates defend their position FOR war. n/t jody Jan 2012 #37
I first learned about Paul from his followers endlessly spamming Fire Walk With Me Jan 2012 #3
I admitted Paul has many serious faults.. Fumesucker Jan 2012 #5
It just flows so easily, eh? :) nt Fire Walk With Me Jan 2012 #21
I think that on DU military hegemony and the surveillance state are equally large factors cthulu2016 Jan 2012 #4
Those two things aren't nearly as racist, at least against Americans.. Fumesucker Jan 2012 #8
I get you. (Didn't read the op closely enough) cthulu2016 Jan 2012 #15
Yeah, in 2008 THIS was everyone's concern, the drug war. Lets start talking about the economy/jobs FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #6
It's possible to talk about more than one thing at a time.. Fumesucker Jan 2012 #9
Agree "talking about the economy/jobs" but all I hear from pols both sides is borrow & spend jody Jan 2012 #11
I'd rather be out of work _ed_ Jan 2012 #72
Depends on what you did to end up there. What if you killed someone? FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #82
Really? zappaman Jan 2012 #7
Are you OK with the US having the higest incarceration rate on the planet? Fumesucker Jan 2012 #10
Agree. IMO Paul cannot be elected but if he keeps critical issues in play then he serves a jody Jan 2012 #12
effective politicians adopt good ideas of bad politicians and use to benefit. msongs Jan 2012 #13
What of Newt, Mitt, and Santorum? DocMac Jan 2012 #74
sure, but this discussion is about Ron Paul zappaman Jan 2012 #89
I know the topic. DocMac Jan 2012 #92
Ron's clock is ticking down. JoePhilly Jan 2012 #14
Only ProSense Jan 2012 #16
Is your message is that he is uniquely racist and homophobic among RWers? cthulu2016 Jan 2012 #19
Wait ProSense Jan 2012 #22
"you wouldn't be trying to justify anything he said" cthulu2016 Jan 2012 #25
OK ProSense Jan 2012 #28
Your implication was that cthulu2016 Jan 2012 #32
No ProSense Jan 2012 #35
It's his position against gays, abortion, thinking the civil rights act shouldn't have been added justiceischeap Jan 2012 #18
Ron Paul's position on drugs is atrociously antiliberal. He wants to deregulate the whole thing. phleshdef Jan 2012 #23
Does Paul also want to deregulate alcohol? Fumesucker Jan 2012 #26
Um. Alcohol is regulated. phleshdef Jan 2012 #30
Heh, you can die from alcohol *withdrawal*.. Fumesucker Jan 2012 #33
Yes I know that. Its also not that common. phleshdef Jan 2012 #46
One drink of adulterated moonshine can blind or kill you.. Fumesucker Jan 2012 #47
Post removed Post removed Jan 2012 #52
Moonshine is illegal.. Fumesucker Jan 2012 #61
Bullshit theory. There are plenty of opiate based pain pill addicts overdosing & killing themselves. phleshdef Jan 2012 #67
The facts are that all drug deaths together, everything is less than twice as much as alcohol.. Fumesucker Jan 2012 #69
And now we have terminally ill people in horrendous under-medicated pain, because their doctors Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #70
Hear hear. nt woo me with science Jan 2012 #73
I'm sorry, the RACIST War on Drugs is "atrociously antiliberal"--there's no defending it with Romulox Jan 2012 #76
Paul, with all his faults, does like fresh Orange Juice ... Trajan Jan 2012 #24
Orange Juice is equal to millions of lives ruined? Fumesucker Jan 2012 #27
Not the point .... Trajan Jan 2012 #39
I admittted that Paul has many serious faults in my OP.. Fumesucker Jan 2012 #41
Anyone who tells the truth about the WoD RainDog Jan 2012 #31
This is a serious issue. 'Drug War' is a political construct and not specific Bluenorthwest Jan 2012 #34
The drug war has been driven for seventy plus years by federal policy.. Fumesucker Jan 2012 #38
Yes, but only since Reagan has incarceration ProgressiveEconomist Jan 2012 #42
Reagan was elected in the early 70's? Fumesucker Jan 2012 #43
There's a BIG difference between modest growth and EXPLOSION ProgressiveEconomist Jan 2012 #68
Tricky Dicky Nixon started the modern drug war with the founding of the DEA Fumesucker Jan 2012 #71
That was sort of rude. In what way did I imply that I am not aware of that? Bluenorthwest Jan 2012 #59
He is no friend to women, being against sexual harassment laws. undeterred Jan 2012 #36
I admittted that Paul has many serious faults in my OP.. Fumesucker Jan 2012 #40
Disagree blogslut Jan 2012 #44
I admittted that Paul has many serious faults in my OP.. Fumesucker Jan 2012 #49
And you missed my point blogslut Jan 2012 #54
Better no government involvement in "drugs" than totally counterproductive government involvement. Fumesucker Jan 2012 #56
Sigh blogslut Jan 2012 #58
You mean 'Better State government Bluenorthwest Jan 2012 #60
Do you deny that federal policy has had a great deal to do with the establishment of the drug war? Fumesucker Jan 2012 #63
Most of DU is against the drug war. Shit, most of AMERICA is against it. That's why Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #45
It's not "spine" that's the problem.. Fumesucker Jan 2012 #48
"Sensible Centrists" and "Pragmatic Progressives" love the drug war, love hot wars, TheKentuckian Jan 2012 #50
and you just nailed three big areas where our 'leadership' has let us down. Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #66
Ron Paul is not volcanically controversial on DU alcibiades_mystery Jan 2012 #51
That's why there are no threads arguing about Ron Paul on DU.. Fumesucker Jan 2012 #53
Free for all between a small group of the same posters, maybe alcibiades_mystery Jan 2012 #57
This is my first OP on Paul.. Fumesucker Jan 2012 #62
Alcohol prohibition lasted alcibiades_mystery Jan 2012 #64
That's why there are so many arguments about Paul.. Fumesucker Jan 2012 #65
Declare victory over right wing lies and bring the drug warriors home RainDog Jan 2012 #55
A significant minority of DUers are enthusiastic supporters of the Drug War, and War in general Romulox Jan 2012 #75
It's drugs and the wars in the middle east I think Marrah_G Jan 2012 #77
Flawed premise onenote Jan 2012 #78
No. Objectively, DU has not been obsessed with Mitt, Gingrich, Santorum to same extent. nt Romulox Jan 2012 #79
I haven't tried to measure it onenote Jan 2012 #80
Problem: Paul has never really "surged". There really isn't much context for this obsession. nt Romulox Jan 2012 #81
What's controversial here is posting anything favorable DevonRex Jan 2012 #83
Thank you. AtomicKitten Jan 2012 #86
The war on drugs is BS, the empire wars and the massive MIC needs to end ASAP, but... workinclasszero Jan 2012 #84
Thank you. Nt DevonRex Jan 2012 #85
I keep hearing that SixthSense Jan 2012 #88
No - it has precious little to do with that. Fawke Em Jan 2012 #87
Uh huh. AtomicKitten Jan 2012 #90
Honestly, I suspect it's his position on Israel that's made him a lightening rode. Puregonzo1188 Jan 2012 #91
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