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limpyhobbler

(8,244 posts)
13. Janitors with PHDs, etc.
Sun Jan 8, 2012, 09:21 PM
Jan 2012

Alot of middle class kids in the 1980s and 1990s got funneled out of high school straight into a four-year college because they had just always been on a "college track".

Parents, teachers, counselors and students all just assumed that college was a default for kids that were on this track, even when there wasn't a clear career goal.

People would sometimes spend a couple years "undeclared" in college before deciding on a major. Sometimes people ended up with degrees that were not really worth much (ancient philosophy or something). Sometimes they ended up with valuable good degrees but found out they just weren't suited to the field for some reason, or they had some mental or physical reason why they couldn't continue in that field, or the job market in that field dried up, or a combination of those factors.

One effect of this has been that if these folks took loans to invest in an education, they sometimes face great difficulty paying the loans off because they don't make enough money in the jobs they end up in.

It also seems like this over-educated under-employed class of people have been some of the early strong supporters of the Occupy-related protests. The burden of student debt and the lack of quality life opportunities (i.e. jobs) are among the issues the protesters seek to draw attention to.

I'm not sure whether the practice of funneling kids strait out of high school into college still goes on or not. But I think these issues are becoming more clear to people, and I wouldn't be surprised to see college applications decreasing.

And there's always some Coyote_Bandit Jan 2012 #1
I wonder how many might have drug convictions? Duer 157099 Jan 2012 #2
Or were Classics majors obamanut2012 Jan 2012 #3
It's homage to the Roman god Janus, the god of doors and opportunities. dimbear Jan 2012 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author HereSince1628 Jan 2012 #8
Alcoholism certainly plays a major role metalbot Jan 2012 #17
There aren't enough jobs requiring college degrees Nikia Jan 2012 #4
I remember a physics ph.d. with extremely high IQ d_r Jan 2012 #5
Investments in education aren't always made just for a financial return. NYC_SKP Jan 2012 #6
sounds like a much better way to live. provis99 Jan 2012 #9
So what this tells you is that All workers should be respected lovuian Jan 2012 #10
Obviously we need to "reform" education quaker bill Jan 2012 #11
I'd be interested in the related number Athame Jan 2012 #12
Janitors with PHDs, etc. limpyhobbler Jan 2012 #13
I have a B.S. in Poli Sci and I am a custodian for a firm that does medical orffices. Ferret Annica Jan 2012 #14
The US government issued over 117,000 H-1B visas in 2010 RZM Jan 2012 #15
I quit nursing once for a janitor job. Same pay, better benefits, less stress. It was a good job. uppityperson Jan 2012 #16
There are quite a few reasons why careers don't turn out as planned FarCenter Jan 2012 #18
I can see how if the choice was teaching vs. being a janitor XemaSab Jan 2012 #19
My father always said, "I don't care if you end up as a ditch-digger; at least you'll be an EDUCATED Ikonoklast Jan 2012 #20
I used to joke that Tallahassee had the best educated waitpersons csziggy Jan 2012 #21
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