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H2O Man

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18. It is sad, really.
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 07:53 PM
Sep 2012

I tend to meet people that I "know" very casually, while attending high school events -- usually sporting events, though some of the public does come to our school board meetings. And some of them are, in my opinion, decent and caring people. But the are ignorant in terms of what is going on around them. They are mentally handcuffed by fears and anxieties. And they seem almost unwilling, or incapable, of really thinking for themselves.

In discussions about social-economic-political issues, their oral contributions parrot what they last heard on Fox News or the like. If it was said on television -- on a channel they "trust" -- well, by golly, it must be true.

One of the most pathetic things I heard today (at my youngest daughter's soccer game) was a couple of parents talking about teachers unions, and how much they are invested in President Obama's campaign. This leads to their "opinion" that teachers unions are all about teachers, and not students.

I put the word "opinion" in quotes, because while they are quite sure they have an actual opinion. They do not. An opinion has to be based upon one's interpretation of facts. They have no facts, only rumors, lies, and misinformation -- hence, they have a "bias," not an opinion. (One need only to consider the courtroom concept of "expert opinion" to illustrate the very real distinction between opinion and bias.)

In weeks past, I have engaged in rather pleasant, though remarkably shallow, conversations with the two, about their concerns about the erosion of democracy in our nation. I'm sure they would agree that family systems are an important building block for a healthy, democratic society. But that good public school systems are an essential part of that foundation is surely a concept they haven't explored. And thus, they lack the ability to identify those forces that benefit from keeping them ignorant, and capitalize on the biases.

Obama at the U.N. [View all] H2O Man Sep 2012 OP
kick H2O Man Sep 2012 #1
"political scatology" G_j Sep 2012 #2
It fits. H2O Man Sep 2012 #8
If the foo shits.... King_Klonopin Sep 2012 #23
right on bigtree Sep 2012 #3
Bigtree littlemissmartypants Sep 2012 #6
I agree! H2O Man Sep 2012 #9
:) Solly Mack Sep 2012 #4
Thanks! H2O Man Sep 2012 #10
. littlemissmartypants Sep 2012 #5
That line was H2O Man Sep 2012 #11
"Political Scatology" +100,000,000 Odin2005 Sep 2012 #7
That almost sounds H2O Man Sep 2012 #12
"Answer: Mitt Romney." "Who personifies this term?" "CORRECT, SIR!" WinkyDink Sep 2012 #16
they have no concept of the Power of Ideas, and are unthinking reactionaries fueled by fears/hatred spanone Sep 2012 #13
It is sad, really. H2O Man Sep 2012 #18
"the difference between sugar and shit"!! Yeah. panader0 Sep 2012 #14
After watching Barack Obama H2O Man Sep 2012 #19
"political scatology" = BRILLIANT. WinkyDink Sep 2012 #15
I just turned on H2O Man Sep 2012 #24
I watched it too. Masterful. K&R trof Sep 2012 #17
Masterful, indeed. H2O Man Sep 2012 #25
I think it may be the best speech I've ever heard him give NICO9000 Sep 2012 #20
It ranks high. H2O Man Sep 2012 #26
you da man h20 mopinko Sep 2012 #21
The fact that H2O Man Sep 2012 #27
"that door slams shut" -- we live in very scary times. antigop Sep 2012 #35
Wow!!!!! Tumbulu Sep 2012 #22
Thank you. H2O Man Sep 2012 #28
So agree, WaterMan. blm Sep 2012 #29
Thanks! H2O Man Sep 2012 #32
Thanks, H20Man n/t antigop Sep 2012 #30
Thank you! H2O Man Sep 2012 #33
Thank you, H2O Man, nenagh Sep 2012 #31
Thank you. H2O Man Sep 2012 #34
You're concept of the dam not retaining the positive, but allowing it to flow past... nenagh Sep 2012 #38
SUGAR and SHIT Martin Eden Sep 2012 #36
We share certain enthusiams Mopar151 Sep 2012 #37
thought speech was awesome Dedicated Mind Sep 2012 #39
BANNED BY US NEWS NETWORKS fingrinn Sep 2012 #40
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