You cherry picked an article that didn't include that quote. (Reply #27)

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Mon Oct 19, 2020, 11:39 AM

PTWB (2,663 posts)

27. You cherry picked an article that didn't include that quote.

The 'neck and neck' quote is from the SAME MEMO in which Jen O'Malley Dillon (Joe's campaign manager) says that in critical states the race is "functionally tied." Further, saying 'neck and neck' doesn't mean 'tied' is semantics.

'We also know that even the best polling can be wrong, and that variables like turnout mean that in a number of critical states we are functionally tied — and that we need to campaign like we’re trailing.'

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/521550-biden-camp-warns-supporters-not-to-get-complacent-campaign-like-were

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/joe-bidens-campaign-manager-says-polls-favoring-him-are-inflated/ar-BB1a83s9?li=BBnbfcL

https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsolender/2020/10/17/biden-campaign-warns-donors-race-far-closer-than-coverage-suggests/#2472b973d639

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43 replies	Author	Time	Post
IBD/TIPP Shows Much Tighter Race [View all]	Inablueway	Oct 2020	OP
There sampling is problematic	edhopper	Oct 2020	#1
Sure...	Demsrule86	Oct 2020	#2
Joe's campaign manager has been sounding the alarm.	PTWB	Oct 2020	#22
No she hasn't...she just wants to avoid complacency...right wing BS with bad sampling.	Demsrule86	Oct 2020	#29
Yes she has.	PTWB	Oct 2020	#32
I don't believe it...may need money. And today she said they were ahead.	Demsrule86	Oct 2020	#36
You think she was lying?	PTWB	Oct 2020	#38
Polls exist on a continuum. Average them.	Loki Liesmith	Oct 2020	#3
Probably the same point that Joe's campaign manager has been making.	PTWB	Oct 2020	#23
Yeah she didn't actually say that	Loki Liesmith	Oct 2020	#25
You cherry picked an article that didn't include that quote.	PTWB	Oct 2020	#27
The concern is strong in this one...	Demsrule86	Oct 2020	#30
So much concern....	Jamesyu	Oct 2020	#4
THIS. EXACTLY. I think the media does this every year to show a tight race for ratings.	Vivienne235729	Oct 2020	#28
It's consistent with Biden's 8-point average lead.	RandySF	Oct 2020	#5
They also had Trump winning the popular vote by 2% in 2016	Eid Ma Clack Shaw	Oct 2020	#6
Welcome to DU	greenjar_01	Oct 2020	#7
Look at an average of the polls..However, national polls don't matter at this point. Nt	helpisontheway	Oct 2020	#8
BULLSHIT POLL!!!!!	ElementaryPenguin	Oct 2020	#9
pay no attention to polls or 538, its about GOTV now	beachbumbob	Oct 2020	#10
A/B rated pollster	Johnny2X2X	Oct 2020	#11
Also I think the 538 poll rankings are more about repeatability not absolute accuracy	Amishman	Oct 2020	#19
Accuracy is a major factor in 538's rankings.	Johnny2X2X	Oct 2020	#20
Investors Business Daily...	orwell	Oct 2020	#12
+10000	Demsrule86	Oct 2020	#37
Outliers gonna outlie	Fiendish Thingy	Oct 2020	#13
so, you're saying Biden's floor is a 5-point victory? or is your concern deeper??	PubliusEnigma	Oct 2020	#14
Sounds alright.	David__77	Oct 2020	#15
There are always outliers	Progressive dog	Oct 2020	#16
And?	Happy Hoosier	Oct 2020	#17
The good news is 5% is a pretty large win.	Statistical	Oct 2020	#18
The Investors Business Daily has a pro-GOP bias	My Pet Orangutan	Oct 2020	#21
IBD/TIPP has been between +5 and +7 for a long time...	regnaD kciN	Oct 2020	#24
20 polls show a steady lead, but lets find 1 to chicken out about.	linda52	Oct 2020	#26
How do you feel about Joe's campaign manager?	PTWB	Oct 2020	#33
Motivational...stay focused...maybe needs more money.	Demsrule86	Oct 2020	#39
Motivational...stay focused...maybe needs more money.	Demsrule86	Oct 2020	#40
No Recs.	GeorgeGist	Oct 2020	#31
I don't rec often.	PTWB	Oct 2020	#34
That's probably what it will be on election day	Azathoth	Oct 2020	#35
Nope...	Demsrule86	Oct 2020	#41
This message was self-deleted by its author	DemocratSinceBirth	Oct 2020	#42
Thank you for your input.	DemocratSinceBirth	Oct 2020	#43

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