Amoral or immoral?

[Mike 03]

4. I appreciate what you're saying.

I think Trump is an inherently amoral man whose amorality leads him to take immoral actions.

But then one has to grapple with the sadistic element. He learns that something is hurting people, and he either continues to do it or makes it worse. That's where the immorality comes in. In his mind he is exacting revenge against people who don't appreciate him. So now we've added anger to the mix. At that point, IMO, his behavior transmogrifies into actual immorality. But if you asked him about it, he'd just shrug and say "they deserve it."

In other words, I don't think he appreciates that his actions are immoral. I'm not even sure he is capable of judging whether or not his own behavior is moral or immoral.

Someone like Stephen Miller is easier to figure out because he's just immoral.