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Showing Original Post only (View all)Is the race really closer than we think...or not? [View all]
People Are Going To Be Shocked: Return of the Shy Trump Voter?In 2016, months of national polls confidently showed Hillary Clinton ahead, and set many Americans up for a shock on Election Night, when the Electoral College tilted decisively in Trumps favor. Two pollsters who werent blindsided by this are Arie Kapteyn and Robert Cahaly. Kapteyn, a Dutch economist who leads the USCs Dornsife Center for Economic and Social Research, oversaw the USC/Los Angeles Times poll that gave Trump a 3-point lead heading into election daywhich, Kapteyn notes, was wrong: Clinton won the popular vote by 2 points. Cahaly, a Republican pollster with the Trafalgar Group, had preelection surveys that showed Trump nudging out Clinton in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Florida and North Carolinaall of which he won.
This year, both men believe that polls could again be undercounting Trumps support. The reason is shy Trump voterspeople reluctant to share their opinions for fear of being judged. Though the shy voter idea is thrown around a lot by both Trump supporters and Democratic skeptics, Kapteyn and Cahaly have specific insights into why, and how, Trump support might be going undetected.
For Cahaly, those votes are likely to make the difference again. Theres a lot of hidden Trump votes out there, he says. Will Biden win the popular vote? Probably. Im not even debating that. But I think Trump is likely to have an Electoral College victory.
As an illustration, Kapteyn described what his team at USC sees in its polls. Beyond simply asking voters whether they support Biden or Trump, USC asks a social-circle questionWho do you think your friends and neighbors will vote for?which some researchers believe makes it easier for people to share their true opinions without fear of being judged for their views.
This year, both men believe that polls could again be undercounting Trumps support. The reason is shy Trump voterspeople reluctant to share their opinions for fear of being judged. Though the shy voter idea is thrown around a lot by both Trump supporters and Democratic skeptics, Kapteyn and Cahaly have specific insights into why, and how, Trump support might be going undetected.
For Cahaly, those votes are likely to make the difference again. Theres a lot of hidden Trump votes out there, he says. Will Biden win the popular vote? Probably. Im not even debating that. But I think Trump is likely to have an Electoral College victory.
As an illustration, Kapteyn described what his team at USC sees in its polls. Beyond simply asking voters whether they support Biden or Trump, USC asks a social-circle questionWho do you think your friends and neighbors will vote for?which some researchers believe makes it easier for people to share their true opinions without fear of being judged for their views.
On the other hand, Nate Silver says there is no good evidence this thing is closer than the polling indicates
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Acting like Biden is 2 points down with a lot of people yet to vote is the right idea
Algernon Moncrieff
Oct 2020
#23
Biden wins by 20 million votes, not a close election. GOP knows and we know
beachbumbob
Oct 2020
#22