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22. I think it's more likely

Wed Nov 4, 2020, 09:08 AM

Nov 2020

they weren't hacked then they hacked them but somehow couldn't figure out how to hack them enough to overcome mail-in ballots that could have been at least somewhat estimated.

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This election has changed my mind completely. [View all] rownesheck Nov 2020 OP

They can hack the machines too. There isn't a cheatproof voting method. apcalc Nov 2020 #1

I know. rownesheck Nov 2020 #4

It's in the vote counting machine programming. That's what nobody is allowed to BComplex Nov 2020 #23

Paper ballots, no machines at all. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2020 #5

yes, there actually is, both my other nations use it to great effect, all paper ballots,hand counted Celerity Nov 2020 #32

I voted absentee only because of covid, will go back to the old way The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2020 #2

Hey Bigredhunk Nov 2020 #8

Depends on how the state tracks them. They can't tell you whether The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2020 #11

TY Bigredhunk Nov 2020 #29

Because the people who work DeminPennswoods Nov 2020 #14

But the people in charge of programming the central tabulators can change votes BComplex Nov 2020 #24

we have ballottrax and it told me when mine was accepted dsc Nov 2020 #25

TY Bigredhunk Nov 2020 #30

Aren't mail in ballots what are helping close the gap? crimycarny Nov 2020 #3

well the argument would be there wouldn't BE a gap qazplm135 Nov 2020 #9

What difference would that make if voting machines can be hacked? crimycarny Nov 2020 #12

if they could be hacked qazplm135 Nov 2020 #18

Because they can't hack into enough machines to overcome the mail-in ballots? crimycarny Nov 2020 #21

I think it's more likely qazplm135 Nov 2020 #22

Just saw an old news story on how easy it is to flip votes on Diebold crimycarny Nov 2020 #34

As long as those ballots are hand counted, it's "traceable". It's the BComplex Nov 2020 #27

Yes, that's how Rove stole Ohio crimycarny Nov 2020 #39

I don't understand it, either. I really hope that there are investigations BComplex Nov 2020 #41

Yeah, That's what I did too. TigressDem Nov 2020 #6

I'm on the "vote by mail" list, but I hand-delivered my ballot. It was verified two-days later. sweetloukillbot Nov 2020 #7

Me too. And I agree that's best. apcalc Nov 2020 #13

Ivanka imported electronic voting machines from China. secondwind Nov 2020 #10

JMHO, but all the talk about early voting and mailed DeminPennswoods Nov 2020 #15

I get an Absentee ballot but I turn it in at the polling place in person. nt Raine Nov 2020 #16

I look to see if TX allows that. rownesheck Nov 2020 #17

I'm in California and you can get one without a reason and sign up Raine Nov 2020 #19

If you're going to do mail-in voting do it like Arizona & Oregon JonLP24 Nov 2020 #20

Voting should be paper ballot only. marie999 Nov 2020 #26

I totally agree. Paper ballots, fine if machines count them the first time, but they all need to be BComplex Nov 2020 #31

This +1000 crimycarny Nov 2020 #36

My ballot was received and then processed on October 26th Bengus81 Nov 2020 #28

But someone might have BComplex Nov 2020 #33

If you buy into a vote hacking conspiracy theory, your election day ballot is just as vulnerable. brooklynite Nov 2020 #37

There is, and has been, evidence that this has been happening for 20 years. BComplex Nov 2020 #38

"it was shown that russia got into the voting machines in Florida." brooklynite Nov 2020 #45

Then what...quickly change it back for a Republican voter, then back for a Dem voter? Bengus81 Nov 2020 #46

You have no evidence that early voting was tampered with. Stop scaring people. brooklynite Nov 2020 #35

True, the OP has no evidence of that, BUT mtnsnake Nov 2020 #40

I am so tired of all the conspiracy theories. LisaL Nov 2020 #42

I've lived in suburban Connecticut my entire life NewJeffCT Nov 2020 #43

The Dems spent months saying how corrupt Rice4VP Nov 2020 #44