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HopeHoops

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28. PA's a little different. We have 66 counties, but they don't amount to much.
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 03:29 PM
Oct 2012

Yeah, the sheriff's department is county-wide, but damn near everything else is township level. New Hampshire is like that as well. I've lived in both for long periods. I don't think we even have county police! In areas where there aren't any township police, the state police have to fill in. We've got a good force here (and they know me well, for various reasons).

But when it comes to election rules, that's pretty much a township issue. I don't think the county even has jurisdiction over it under the PA Constitution (not positive, just think not). Precincts and choice of counting methods are a local matter. I still don't trust them, but at least it's local.

The state only gets involved when they want to sway the results, like PA's new voter ID law. Corbett's an asswipe and he's got a house and senate full of asswipes to back him up. Still, Obama's going to win the state. It would take some MAJOR fucking with the machines to swing the other way and I'm sure the media will challenge it here. Obama's lead is way too high.

Any takers? n/t porphyrian Oct 2012 #1
Why don't you do some research? cali Oct 2012 #2
So, what is your point, then? porphyrian Oct 2012 #5
...also, you failed to suggest a solution. Please do so. n/t porphyrian Oct 2012 #8
do try reading, honey. cali Oct 2012 #9
I'm not your "honey," condescending person, and that is no solution. porphyrian Oct 2012 #10
It's in my prior post. cali Oct 2012 #11
So, then, you have no solution. porphyrian Oct 2012 #12
The part we're worried about is, "...and all the votes are counted..." CrispyQ Oct 2012 #3
How would that help those effected by the myriad of new laws cali Oct 2012 #4
It doesn't. The whole fucking electoral system is corrupt & compromised. CrispyQ Oct 2012 #6
That's my take. n/t porphyrian Oct 2012 #14
Agreed, but electronic voting machines are a reality in this election, as they have been since 2000. porphyrian Oct 2012 #7
Anyone who actually has a solution? We have roughly a month. n/t porphyrian Oct 2012 #13
This is not an irrational position. n/t porphyrian Oct 2012 #15
The one Australia adopted over 20 years ago - mandatory voting. HopeHoops Oct 2012 #16
I could support that. Isn't voting our civic duty? porphyrian Oct 2012 #17
Beyond that, you've got to have some faith that the machines haven't been fucked with. HopeHoops Oct 2012 #18
It's easier if the election is actually close. I'm not convinced it will be. n/t porphyrian Oct 2012 #19
There's no indication that it will be close. That's why I said "only so much". HopeHoops Oct 2012 #20
Right, we're agreeing. porphyrian Oct 2012 #21
What I don't buy is the "paper trails are expensive" argument. That's bullshit. HopeHoops Oct 2012 #22
Yep, that's bullshit. porphyrian Oct 2012 #23
It's been privatized all along. Diebold isn't exactly a charity operation and certainly not "gubmint HopeHoops Oct 2012 #24
Again, if the boss wanted it, they would make the change. porphyrian Oct 2012 #25
I'm afraid "county by county" (or townships here in PA) will be the only path to success. HopeHoops Oct 2012 #26
I only say state level because of state laws. Local is the best place to start. n/t porphyrian Oct 2012 #27
PA's a little different. We have 66 counties, but they don't amount to much. HopeHoops Oct 2012 #28
I don't think people realize how different things are state by state. porphyrian Oct 2012 #29
I grew up in MD where EVERYTHING was at the county level. PA and NH were quite different. HopeHoops Oct 2012 #30
I like THAT one. Tigress DEM Oct 2012 #33
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