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Tom Rinaldo

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46. Many otherwise smart people sometimes do idiotic things

Sun Nov 8, 2020, 08:33 AM

Nov 2020

I know that is true of me. Maybe it can be said that legitimately smart people do idiotic things less often than legitimately dumb people, but no one is immune. Speaking for myself, often is is a function of where I do or do not focus my attention. When I am not actively "tracking" I am more prone to dumb oversights, errors, or impromptu decisions without really thinking them through. Whatever, it was statistically obvious to Trump and his minions that if they slowed down mail delivery, a small but significant percentage of mailed back ballots would arrive after deadlines.

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The election was rigged. The rigging failed. [View all] Tom Rinaldo Nov 2020 OP

Rove was arrogantly bragging to someone just before election SheltieLover Nov 2020 #1

Yes, I'm aware of those reports Tom Rinaldo Nov 2020 #13

Very true! SheltieLover Nov 2020 #22

Yes Sir, Deliberately...... DENVERPOPS Nov 2020 #65

great point. romney was just on CNN saying republicans won overall, and americans don't want certainot Nov 2020 #77

Oddly I noticed Trump ended up with Romney's famous 47% Captain Zero Nov 2020 #81

So much THIS. I'm trusting Joe and Kamala leading in toning this down. JudyM Nov 2020 #89

Spanberger won. ZZenith Nov 2020 #113

you're right thanks. she won about 51-49 but i wonder how close it would have certainot Nov 2020 #115

Nobody detests right-wing radio more than I, certainot. ZZenith Nov 2020 #116

well, i don't know... i guess i'm a close second then certainot Nov 2020 #117

It sure looks that way! ananda Nov 2020 #56

I don't know! SheltieLover Nov 2020 #57

OK. ananda Nov 2020 #61

I think all states should permit in-person voting the entire month of October. forgotmylogin Nov 2020 #108

Thank goodness for drop boxes OhNo-Really Nov 2020 #96

touchscreens must be examined. mopinko Nov 2020 #2

Absolutely must require paper ballots, Mo SheltieLover Nov 2020 #12

been saying for 16 f'n years now- paper ballots not vapor ballots. mopinko Nov 2020 #14

Exactly! SheltieLover Nov 2020 #18

They are allergic to countable, verifiable votes. jaxexpat Nov 2020 #28

Absolutely! SheltieLover Nov 2020 #37

that's why they tried to shut down mail ins. mopinko Nov 2020 #30

Absolutely! SheltieLover Nov 2020 #40

+1 c-rational Nov 2020 #78

Quite a few of us have been saying that since 2000 DENVERPOPS Nov 2020 #68

That's at state level treestar Nov 2020 #72

Indiana lets each COUNTY select it's voting method. 92 counties here. Captain Zero Nov 2020 #79

That condenses it nicely: "paper ballots not vapor ballots" Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2020 #97

i survived the bush years making buttons. mopinko Nov 2020 #102

The other side, of course, is claiming that the machines that counted the paper ballots were rigged Klaralven Nov 2020 #21

Focusing on Trump's sabotage of the Post Office for now and it's absolutely predictable consequences Tom Rinaldo Nov 2020 #41

I voted by mail with absolutely no problems Klaralven Nov 2020 #44

Many otherwise smart people sometimes do idiotic things Tom Rinaldo Nov 2020 #46

More "proof" of 'rigged'........ MyOwnPeace Nov 2020 #52

Without using priority treestar Nov 2020 #73

only an idiot would mail in their federal tax return at the last minute DBoon Nov 2020 #112

Well DENVERPOPS Nov 2020 #74

I think that the universal mail-in ballot is probably the best approach to work from Klaralven Nov 2020 #86

We have it DENVERPOPS Nov 2020 #101

If your average high school hacker can hack into a generic US voting machine in minutes, you fierywoman Nov 2020 #109

Are you ready to cut the number of voters that can vote by half? LiberalArkie Nov 2020 #62

I believe DENVERPOPS Nov 2020 #76

I don't know about anyone else. But I was working in the IT world before retirement..... usaf-vet Nov 2020 #87

I liked the touchscreen I used TexasBushwhacker Nov 2020 #103

you can hack tabulators too. mopinko Nov 2020 #104

I'm sure anything can be hacked TexasBushwhacker Nov 2020 #105

History will record that Biden actually won by a landslide. Girard442 Nov 2020 #3

He won by less than 3 popular vote points as of today, I don't see how that gets to 10 nt Shermann Nov 2020 #4

because the easily hackable electronic modems are hiding Biden's true victory. nt Baltimike Nov 2020 #6

And many down ballots! SheltieLover Nov 2020 #9

damn stright. nt Baltimike Nov 2020 #11

He won't officially get to 10 -- but I believe the votes were out there. Girard442 Nov 2020 #10

No doubt on that. Hugin Nov 2020 #5

We are fortunate repukes miscalculated # of votes to mess with! SheltieLover Nov 2020 #7

How Many Votes Were Not Counted Is Once Again The Question Mr. Palast? DanieRains Nov 2020 #8

This is a powerful and truthful analysis. I firmly agree and look forward to someone mfcorey1 Nov 2020 #15

Been done several times by PBS, though too few watch. jaxexpat Nov 2020 #34

Right, if Bigfoot or Ancient Aliens could be tied into vote hacks and mail theft ... Ligyron Nov 2020 #55

So right. jaxexpat Nov 2020 #58

Thanks for bringing this up, Tom. Hugin Nov 2020 #16

Human behavioral trends do not support the narrow results! SheltieLover Nov 2020 #17

We made a concerted effort in my SE PA county to return our ballots IN PERSON. apcalc Nov 2020 #19

I intentionally chose NOT to discuss how voting machines could have been messed with or hacked. Tom Rinaldo Nov 2020 #20

He most certainly did! SheltieLover Nov 2020 #24

I can't recommend your post enough. llmart Nov 2020 #25

Best thread of the day! BComplex Nov 2020 #23

And hell yes to saving our postal service! SheltieLover Nov 2020 #29

I've been wanting the post office bailed out and made right for years. BComplex Nov 2020 #33

Yes! SheltieLover Nov 2020 #39

Personally, I think it was more aimed at privatization. It was supposed to bankrupt USPS, but didn't better Nov 2020 #80

Get rid of the republicans poison pill I_UndergroundPanther Nov 2020 #114

Why do you separate the vote for president from all procon Nov 2020 #26

I believe I covered that. Tom Rinaldo Nov 2020 #31

No, that doesn't explain anything. procon Nov 2020 #48

I said an untold number of races below the Presidential level could have been stolen Tom Rinaldo Nov 2020 #50

This makes sense. ananda Nov 2020 #59

The mail ballots saved us, they couldn't switch the votes with a paper trail. sunonmars Nov 2020 #27

Voters dropping off ballots in person saved our country! SheltieLover Nov 2020 #32

Yup, we need to expand paper trail voting fast. sunonmars Nov 2020 #43

Most definitely! SheltieLover Nov 2020 #45

It was definitely calculated. sunonmars Nov 2020 #51

I've been saying this over and over. bamagal62 Nov 2020 #35

I tend to agree with this.. ananda Nov 2020 #36

Trump telegraphed his intent, and of course used projection to blame others bucolic_frolic Nov 2020 #38

He & they must be prosecuted & punished to the max allowable limits SheltieLover Nov 2020 #42

"People aren't that dumb." - correction pazzyanne Nov 2020 #54

Many votes were flipped on the electronic voting machines, also judesedit Nov 2020 #47

The right wing bunch on the forum I follow Chainfire Nov 2020 #49

"someone's relative was a poll worker in that county and confirmed..." Tom Rinaldo Nov 2020 #53

Many of these types of stories are accompanied by Chainfire Nov 2020 #82

K&R UCmeNdc Nov 2020 #60

We can't ignore the many issues with electronic voting machines and no paper backup dlk Nov 2020 #63

Excellent post but don't expect to hear this on Morning Joe Scum malaise Nov 2020 #64

Absolutely dianaredwing Nov 2020 #66

There is no way in the hell that Trump added 7,8242,297 votes to his 2016 #s Botany Nov 2020 #67

Repub on CBS Sunday Morning today Grins Nov 2020 #69

Right, in Trumpotopia that makes Dems SMART BUSINESS PEOPLE, doesn't it? Captain Zero Nov 2020 #83

K&R mvd Nov 2020 #70

I agree crud Nov 2020 #71

i want to see things standardized (paper ballots ) and not AllaN01Bear Nov 2020 #75

We bubble in a paper ballot Chainfire Nov 2020 #84

Need analysis of swing state votes from smallest to largest precincts Captain Zero Nov 2020 #85

For immediate outcry purposes, we should focus on the mail sabotage now to counter Trump's lies BUT Tom Rinaldo Nov 2020 #88

There just have to be consequences for scipan Nov 2020 #90

Kick dalton99a Nov 2020 #91

K&R, ... but not all of it. Either we should ***NEVER*** believe polling in the US again or down uponit7771 Nov 2020 #92

KICK.. Stuart G Nov 2020 #93

And they are going to cheat in 4 years also. So we had better prepare now. Maraya1969 Nov 2020 #94

The rigging didn't completely fail AdamGG Nov 2020 #95

Who wouldn't want an investigation into this? Blue Owl Nov 2020 #98

Who wouldn't want an investigation into this? Blue Owl Nov 2020 #99

Exactly seta1950 Nov 2020 #100

I think it was also. In a multitude of ways. 58Sunliner Nov 2020 #106

K&R. Thank you Tribetime Nov 2020 #107

It's all going to be investigated Joinfortmill Nov 2020 #110

THIS is the best post of the entire election cycle. Spot on! nt Baltimike Nov 2020 #111