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Brother Buzz

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18. But, but Pfizer's comes with a designer suitcase, so maybe it's really Ford v Ferrari

Reply to mitch96 (Reply #13)

Mon Nov 16, 2020, 01:52 PM

Nov 2020

Pfizer designed suitcase-sized shipping containers that will keep its doses at ultracold temperatures for up to 10 days. Each container holds between 1,000 and 5,000 doses, charged by dry ice. The shipping containers are reusable.

https://www.fiercepharma.com/manufacturing/pfizer-designed-new-container-and-plans-to-tap-shipping-companies-for-covid-19

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So, Moderna's vaccine is clearly superior. Will Pfizer even play a role in our recovery? [View all] Goodheart Nov 2020 OP

I would think both would be used. Happy Hoosier Nov 2020 #1

They're just working on getting the brain-controlling nanobots to be small enough. 🤣 TheBlackAdder Nov 2020 #25

HA! Happy Hoosier Nov 2020 #28

Given the production/distribution challenges, I suspect both would be used unblock Nov 2020 #2

Ford vs Chevrolet? Brother Buzz Nov 2020 #3

As long as it get's you where you need to go........ virus free... nt mitch96 Nov 2020 #13

But, but Pfizer's comes with a designer suitcase, so maybe it's really Ford v Ferrari Brother Buzz Nov 2020 #18

O000oooo I like the designer suit case... mitch96 Nov 2020 #21

I read Pfizer's can be manufactured more quickly, plus with their head start Alhena Nov 2020 #4

88% was already pre-ordered by other countries. Plus Pfizer's has refrigeration delivery issues. TheBlackAdder Nov 2020 #27

but is the efficacy the same or better? Native Nov 2020 #5

I don't trust Moderna Johnny2X2X Nov 2020 #6

And they have NEVER brought a vaccine to market Horse with no Name Nov 2020 #14

I'm glad that didn't stop them from trying. Steelrolled Nov 2020 #20

links on this (Kushner connections and the Moderna lying before) please TIA Celerity Nov 2020 #16

" closely aligned with Jared," ok something stinks right there... hard stop is right!! mitch96 Nov 2020 #22

I think Pfizer can have theirs out first. NutmegYankee Nov 2020 #7

Superior according to whom? It's a press release based on preliminary phase III trial data. nt Cognitive_Resonance Nov 2020 #8

Clearly superior? LisaL Nov 2020 #9

And both need to be stored at sub-zero temperatures N/T lapucelle Nov 2020 #10

No, the Moderna one can be refrigerated sir pball Nov 2020 #29

Yes, I saw that later. I had read (or misread) an earlier report lapucelle Nov 2020 #34

A few percent difference in the short-term efficacy is down in the noise. lagomorph777 Nov 2020 #11

Preliminary data. PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2020 #12

No, not clearly superior. Both are 90%+ effective, based on MineralMan Nov 2020 #15

I think they are about the same Steelrolled Nov 2020 #17

This message was self-deleted by its author pinkstarburst Nov 2020 #19

Pfizer and Moderna Steelrolled Nov 2020 #24

Yep, Oxford uses more traditional adenovirus based technology. LisaL Nov 2020 #31

Don't think anything has been established as being "clearly superior" and both will be released lettucebe Nov 2020 #23

Exactly. LisaL Nov 2020 #30

Moderna's PRESS RELEASE is clearly superior. spanone Nov 2020 #26

Point taken. Goodheart Nov 2020 #32

That's all we got from Pfizer too. No peer review, no FDA review. spanone Nov 2020 #33