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Response to Jspur (Reply #2)

Tue Nov 17, 2020, 03:47 AM

5. What do you mean by "we are still at war with them"?

Who is them? And who are their allies? And who are ours? And who are their enemies? And who are ours? And who are the allies and enemies of each of those parties? And of those parties?

I completely agree that the US can never, by just force of will and expenditure of blood and money, make Afghanistan be a certain way.

But it does not follow that leaving just to meet the goal of leaving yields a better outcome -- for all parties or in aggregate -- than not.

This is a complicated mess with no panacea. So "running away" seems especially unlikely to yield the best outcome. Probably that requires really well informed people making really unpopular decisions, consistently, for a really long time. That seems to be the way the universe works.

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