The problem is that when leave (Reply #23)

In the discussion thread: What's wrong with withdrawing troops from Afghanistan? [View all]

Tue Nov 17, 2020, 08:47 AM

Chainfire (5,350 posts)

23. The problem is that when leave

We leave the people who have worked with us, hand in hand, for decades to the mercy of their enemies, just like we did in Vietnam.

I would love to see our involvements in the two countries come to an end, and soon, but the plans need to include how to protect our allies on the way out. Trump wants to be the man who ended the endless wars and he doesn't give a damn who is hurt in the process.

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46 replies	Author	Time	Post
What's wrong with withdrawing troops from Afghanistan? [View all]	Jspur	Nov 2020	OP
The problem is that Trump doesn't give a fuck about methods or consequences. The goal is not	RockRaven	Nov 2020	#1
I agree with what you saying about Trump but	Jspur	Nov 2020	#2
What do you mean by "we are still at war with them"?	RockRaven	Nov 2020	#5
What is the US' objective by being in Afghanistan right now?	Jspur	Nov 2020	#7
Instead of asking what the US goal is, ask what Trump's goal is. Because the same "what" with	RockRaven	Nov 2020	#11
This is what people said about Vietnam.	KWR65	Nov 2020	#33
As a person with Afghan friends both here and in Afghanistan	littlemissmartypants	Nov 2020	#3
I understand there is a moral dilema in withrawing from	Jspur	Nov 2020	#4
I don't think you understand what we're doing there.	littlemissmartypants	Nov 2020	#6
enough with the TRAINING THE AFGHAN ARMY schtick	Skittles	Nov 2020	#15
How's this?	littlemissmartypants	Nov 2020	#18
It's a "failed state", so it's going to take a very long time	LeftInTX	Nov 2020	#19
trillions	torius	Nov 2020	#9
I was wrong. According to this article the US spent 45 billion in Aghanistan	Jspur	Nov 2020	#10
That's $45 billion per year -- over the decades it amounts to real money....	Klaralven	Nov 2020	#26
Agreed it comes out to 450 billion over a decade	Jspur	Nov 2020	#29
I do think they should come home, however..	mvd	Nov 2020	#8
Obama's withdrawal from Iraq in 2009 led to ISIS	ansible	Nov 2020	#12
um, NO	Skittles	Nov 2020	#16
Obama's withdrawal from Iraq was too abrupt	LeftInTX	Nov 2020	#20
that may be true	Skittles	Nov 2020	#40
You know damn well this is a RW talking point. Obama had absolutely	bullwinkle428	Nov 2020	#35
President Obama tried to negotiate the agreement, but still not allow	Blue_true	Nov 2020	#44
You are incorrect. ISIS formed in 2004, after Bush invaded Iraq.	Blue_true	Nov 2020	#43
Pull out and	BGBD	Nov 2020	#13
I feel the problem is there will always be terrorist groups that form in	Jspur	Nov 2020	#14
And if the price to keep them on their heels in Afghanistan	BGBD	Nov 2020	#17
You make a good point.	Blue_true	Nov 2020	#45
Sooner or later the US will leave Afghanistan just	DeminPennswoods	Nov 2020	#21
The problem is that when leave	Chainfire	Nov 2020	#23
The problem I have is that we can't protect these people forever.	Jspur	Nov 2020	#31
Yes	bdamomma	Nov 2020	#37
Geopolitically, Putin would want the US tied up	DeminPennswoods	Nov 2020	#41
It's the way it's being done . Afghan Allies also feel abandoned just as the Kurds did . The US	JI7	Nov 2020	#22
Because foreign policy and deployment of American power should NEVER be "willy-nilly"	maxrandb	Nov 2020	#24
Ditto n/t	malaise	Nov 2020	#25
The country should have been split, southeast Pashtuns and northwest Tajik, Uzbek, Darii alliance	Klaralven	Nov 2020	#27
+1	DeminPennswoods	Nov 2020	#42
You are abandoning people who helped us to their deaths...and the Taliban will be back in control.	Demsrule86	Nov 2020	#28
This is one way Trump converted Obama supporters in 2016	BannonsLiver	Nov 2020	#30
No, see, you just miss all of the talking points on the right.	Arthur_Frain	Nov 2020	#32
I feel the exact same way that you do about MIC and	Jspur	Nov 2020	#34
Withdrawing them is one thing, but where he will send them next is another	mtnsnake	Nov 2020	#36
I don't know enough to make a judgment, but I think trump is setting up for '24	ecstatic	Nov 2020	#38
Trump isn't doing this to benefit the US or our troops.... Something else is up.	Chakaconcarne	Nov 2020	#39
I think you're confusing methodology with objective.	LanternWaste	Nov 2020	#46

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