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67. I completely disagree- if Dems take senate they should govern as if they lose both houses in 2022

Thu Nov 19, 2020, 01:28 PM

Nov 2020

Dems shouldn’t fight to gain power unless they intend to wield it swiftly and ruthlessly.

If they take the senate, they should ram through every item on Biden’s agenda, force Manchin and Sinema to take a stand, and if they vote against, primary them from the left.

If Dems don’t take the senate, the house can still investigate the crimes of the Trump era, only this time, subpeonas for documents will complied with, and witnesses can’t claim executive privilege.

Likewise, the DOJ should be unleashed to investigate and prosecute all Trump cabal crimes supported by evidence. The Dems have been elected to govern, and bringing criminals to Justice is part of competent government.

Justice can be done at the time as fighting COVID, fixing the economy, saving the environment, etc. These aren’t mutually exclusive goals, and avoiding them because some people might get mad and not vote for you is absurd. Accomplishing Biden’s agenda AND bringing the Trump cabal to justice would be good governance, benefit the majority of Americans, and increase Dem’s odds at election time.

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I'm sorry but I think Joes wrong on this.... [View all] BigOleDummy Nov 2020 OP

Totally Wrong Me. Nov 2020 #1

If Biden wants a Democratic House and Senate in 2022, Eyeball_Kid Nov 2020 #7

Bingo! If he lets criminals slide because they're POLITICIANS, he's going to lose the base. BComplex Nov 2020 #28

I don't agree...turn it over to justice and the states. The House election shows clearly what Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #41

Biden has to do both at the same time. It is the challenge he must face. UCmeNdc Nov 2020 #53

He can't do both...and has no business interfering with Justice anymore than Trump did. Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #59

my fear is that he will lean (in deep private) on the DOJ to NOT go after any (or most) of them Celerity Nov 2020 #54

Post removed Post removed Nov 2020 #64

I fear you may be right. I was trying to have some hope, but I may have been overly optimistic. Celerity Nov 2020 #66

He should just leave it to the Justice Dept. I think he's going to have... brush Nov 2020 #2

That's exactly what the article says wryter2000 Nov 2020 #19

This! russiamommy Nov 2020 #43

I thought he was going to stay out of the Fed's business? Evergreen Emerald Nov 2020 #3

You mean DOJ, not the Fed, right? lagomorph777 Nov 2020 #32

Can you say, "Disillusioned Obama voters stayed home during the 2010 mid-terms?" Eyeball_Kid Nov 2020 #4

The IP law expired after Ken Starr- without a Dem senate, the law won't be revived Fiendish Thingy Nov 2020 #10

Can I say that fuck those voters...thanks to them we had six years of nothing...so how did they Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #42

If Biden appoints a weak AG who won't prosecute Trump, he will have failed as president. Nt Fiendish Thingy Nov 2020 #5

agree, and who would you support for AG? Celerity Nov 2020 #55

Do you guys consider what is happening right now in this country. We all hate Trump and want Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #57

A fully functioning justice system is an essential component of democracy Fiendish Thingy Nov 2020 #63

Well if you piss off people who need help and the GOP gets back in 2022 (house and keeps Senate) Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #65

I completely disagree- if Dems take senate they should govern as if they lose both houses in 2022 Fiendish Thingy Nov 2020 #67

If we don't take the Senate and the House investigates...we will lose it in 2022. Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #68

Your choice: anger republicans or anger young progressives, who turned out in record numbers Fiendish Thingy Nov 2020 #70

I would also suggest that unless we get two senate seats in Georgia...the GOP will block a Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #58

Too early to judge anything as good or bad. LakeArenal Nov 2020 #6

Only Investigate People Who Likely Committed Crimes DanieRains Nov 2020 #8

Leave it to the states!! Nt USALiberal Nov 2020 #9

READ THE WHOLE ARTICLE!!! StarfishSaver Nov 2020 #11

This!!!! Bleacher Creature Nov 2020 #15

This is at least the third thread today about this bs StarfishSaver Nov 2020 #18

The headline does suck wryter2000 Nov 2020 #22

Don t people read the articles they're commenting on before commenting on them? StarfishSaver Nov 2020 #24

When I started working in communications... Act_of_Reparation Nov 2020 #27

Who is "we"? StarfishSaver Nov 2020 #39

Okie dokie. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2020 #44

It's not about what works out for me. StarfishSaver Nov 2020 #48

Are you not understanding what I'm saying, or just being willfully obtuse? Act_of_Reparation Nov 2020 #71

This!! The title of the OP is very deceptive Thekaspervote Nov 2020 #23

Maybe people have read and have a different take on it than you melman Nov 2020 #25

No. They obviously didn't read it. StarfishSaver Nov 2020 #40

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Thank you. He also said (if it was portrayed correctly) that he doesn't wan his administration.... George II Nov 2020 #31

Unfortunately, the lede got buried in the bad headline. Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2020 #33

Glad To REad Your Comments Me. Nov 2020 #35

IF we had a fucking functioning democracy this is how it would work Cosmocat Nov 2020 #36

Yep. This shit is getting really old. GoCubsGo Nov 2020 #52

This is what I thought he was doing Dem2 Nov 2020 #60

I agree that this is not the right path essaynnc Nov 2020 #12

I could've told you that. underpants Nov 2020 #13

I think he's right. People are hurting and need help Rice4VP Nov 2020 #14

I don't want it to be 'consumed by investigations' either, elleng Nov 2020 #16

"He would leave decisions up to the Justice Department" wryter2000 Nov 2020 #17

Or in other words how our democracy worked for hundreds of years Cosmocat Nov 2020 #37

He said he would leave it to his independent Justice Department mcar Nov 2020 #20

I think this is being a bit overblown EarlG Nov 2020 #21

Absolutely wrong. No accountability. Chump will be back then. kairos12 Nov 2020 #26

He didn't say he didn't want any investigations, he said he doesn't want his administration.... George II Nov 2020 #29

Agree. PirateRo Nov 2020 #30

I heard that quote, and I think he's just distancing himself from whatever the AG decides to do. ecstatic Nov 2020 #34

If a deep cleaning of Trump and the GOP does not occur, the Biden administration will PufPuf23 Nov 2020 #45

We need the Senate stat flamingdem Nov 2020 #46

I read the article and it makes it seem marlakay Nov 2020 #47

What if he reappointed Mueller special prosecutor and told him to finish what he started? Buckeyeblue Nov 2020 #49

No, the AG and the states can do it...or not. Joe Biden needs to stay away from it. Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #56

I guess I meant the AG could appoint a special prosecutor. I don't think Biden can just do it. Buckeyeblue Nov 2020 #61

No special prosecutors...it will be seen as coming from Biden. Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #62

No. He is correct. GoCubsGo Nov 2020 #50

Joe's Yeehah Nov 2020 #51

This is a pointless thread really....we need to be all in getting Georgia without which we will Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #69